Just in case anyone else can use this info my lx665 got so it needed 20 seconds of glow to start at around 0 f , disconnected the strap and checked them with ohm meter , found one dead one. If you do this the good ones measure 1.9 or so on the 200 scale and will glow bright red at the tip in 4 to 5 seconds when connected across a battery. New one measured the same. The dealer price was $49 plus shipping , I got it from NAPA auto parts for 15 plus shipping which made it $26.50. The plug is NGK Y701rs. 11 to 15 ft pounds torque when you install. It is amazing how much difference one bad plug made.