Glow plugs....that time of the year!

[Timjame]

Hello everybody, I have a bobcat 863 with the Duetz 1011 engine and am in need of a full set of glow plugs. They must have been going out one at a time until now all are done and now it won't fire. Can't believe that in 62 degrees it wouldn't start without them....I called my local dealer and they wanted $60/ea plus shipping for each OEM glow plug and will take several days to get in. The ones I pulled out were Beru 100 226 239 11V (that's the only number on them). For some reason I can't find anybody that can cross them to a Bosch or NGK or something else more excessible and cheaper. Anybody have this engine and could cross which ones you used that will work hopefully found at a napa or some similar place? I'm racking my brain here trying to figure how in 2018 I can't find a replacement for them and instead may have to pay about $260 for four plugs plus wait a week or so to get them. Thanks for any input!

 

[volkswagenvan]

All I can find is BERU 0100226239 cross to... BERU GN960, DEUTZ 1180400, DEUTZ-AG 01180400, KHD 1180400 Hope that helps.

 

[Timjame]

All I can find is BERU 0100226239 cross to... BERU GN960, DEUTZ 1180400, DEUTZ-AG 01180400, KHD 1180400 Hope that helps.

Thanks! I found through those numbers (specifically the GN960) a part number through advanced auto that cross referenced to an autolite glow plug. Looks identical to my expensive German plug. Way cheaper and they had them in stock. $42 for all four after tax (less than the price of one from the dealer). Will let you all know how they work this weekend.

 

[volkswagenvan]

Thanks! I found through those numbers (specifically the GN960) a part number through advanced auto that cross referenced to an autolite glow plug. Looks identical to my expensive German plug. Way cheaper and they had them in stock. $42 for all four after tax (less than the price of one from the dealer). Will let you all know how they work this weekend.

Great to hear you got something figured out. That part number was hard for me to cross to anything. Let us know how you make out and tell us the working part number you come up with. It may help somebody else out to!

 

[Timjame]

Great to hear you got something figured out. That part number was hard for me to cross to anything. Let us know how you make out and tell us the working part number you come up with. It may help somebody else out to!

Will do. I will install them and see how they do this weekend. If they work well I will certainly post back with the part number. I literally spend an hour or two and made numerous calls. If it can help somebody else save money, find it stocked at a local store, and save time looking then great!

 

[Timjame]

Will do. I will install them and see how they do this weekend. If they work well I will certainly post back with the part number. I literally spend an hour or two and made numerous calls. If it can help somebody else save money, find it stocked at a local store, and save time looking then great!

Sorry it's been a while, figured I would circle back on the glow plug issue. Unfortunately the plugs didn't work. They were a tad too slim to fit so you may be stuck with the expensive ones that you can't get locally. I can add though that my plugs ended up being fine. Maybe this will help others so I will post my issue. Plugs weren't getting hot. Had 12.6V at each plug wire when activated and heard the relay clicking. Just assumed it was a plug issue. I touched the glow end to the positive pole of a 12v battery and ran a jumper wire to the negative pole from the body of the plug. Red hot in no time. Plugs were fine. Learned you can get 12.6V to the plug but it can be a weak voltage which this was caused by a bad relay. So even though the relay clicked and sent over 12V to the wire it was still bad. How did I determine that? My electrical engineering brother and we swapped the starter relay for the glow plug one and ot fired red hot. Good thing is if you take the relay into autozone or equivalent it's actually a very common relay used in multiple applications and it was $19. Good to go!

 

[reaperman]

Sorry it's been a while, figured I would circle back on the glow plug issue. Unfortunately the plugs didn't work. They were a tad too slim to fit so you may be stuck with the expensive ones that you can't get locally. I can add though that my plugs ended up being fine. Maybe this will help others so I will post my issue. Plugs weren't getting hot. Had 12.6V at each plug wire when activated and heard the relay clicking. Just assumed it was a plug issue. I touched the glow end to the positive pole of a 12v battery and ran a jumper wire to the negative pole from the body of the plug. Red hot in no time. Plugs were fine. Learned you can get 12.6V to the plug but it can be a weak voltage which this was caused by a bad relay. So even though the relay clicked and sent over 12V to the wire it was still bad. How did I determine that? My electrical engineering brother and we swapped the starter relay for the glow plug one and ot fired red hot. Good thing is if you take the relay into autozone or equivalent it's actually a very common relay used in multiple applications and it was $19. Good to go!

A bad relay can have you running in all sorts of different directions. I wish when they were more like a fuse when going bad. Instead of "kind of work".

 

[volkswagenvan]

Sorry it's been a while, figured I would circle back on the glow plug issue. Unfortunately the plugs didn't work. They were a tad too slim to fit so you may be stuck with the expensive ones that you can't get locally. I can add though that my plugs ended up being fine. Maybe this will help others so I will post my issue. Plugs weren't getting hot. Had 12.6V at each plug wire when activated and heard the relay clicking. Just assumed it was a plug issue. I touched the glow end to the positive pole of a 12v battery and ran a jumper wire to the negative pole from the body of the plug. Red hot in no time. Plugs were fine. Learned you can get 12.6V to the plug but it can be a weak voltage which this was caused by a bad relay. So even though the relay clicked and sent over 12V to the wire it was still bad. How did I determine that? My electrical engineering brother and we swapped the starter relay for the glow plug one and ot fired red hot. Good thing is if you take the relay into autozone or equivalent it's actually a very common relay used in multiple applications and it was $19. Good to go!

Glad to hear you got it figured out and to bad about the new glow plugs not fitting. But guess you got time to look for a spare now!

 

[croach94]

Thanks! I found through those numbers (specifically the GN960) a part number through advanced auto that cross referenced to an autolite glow plug. Looks identical to my expensive German plug. Way cheaper and they had them in stock. $42 for all four after tax (less than the price of one from the dealer). Will let you all know how they work this weekend.

Did they work out for you