Before you get your lever load binders dirty and can't return them best you check to see if your state, like my state, requires binders with screw type take-up. Folks get fined regularly here for not having the safer type.
I stopped by to chat with a construction buddy of mine today and he said they have been using levers forever... and hadnt heard of any laws to the contrary... I also wont have to stop at any DOT check points or the like since I am now towing with a commercial vehicle... so it should be all ok...
I had never heard about having to have the screw type, but I don't go everywhere. They would be rusted solid in Ontario with all the salt. I have a couple for areas where ther is not room to swing a big pipe around, but I find them slow.
I am pretty sure that they have to be bungeed or chained here too... and even if not its a safe practice for sure... one of which I planned on either way...
In looking at the link... I have the binder thats the 5th one down...
Realize that DOT or other law enforcement may specifically target you because they tend to find a lot of violations with those that don't tow regularly with undersize tow vehicles and trailers. Even if you are exempt from the FMCSR or your state's equivalent regulations they could still get you for things such as trailer equipment violations or improper binding. There are a couple of tips you can consider if you have never bound a skid steer on a trailer- these are my thoughts and others might have slightly different opions based on their regulations or practices. -It is usually best to back the skid steer onto the trailer rather than pull in forwards. -Make sure you put the skid steer over the trailer axles if a bumber pull trailer to balance it out. -Use Grade 70 transport chain- it is a little more expensive than Grade 43 but you will not get questioned by law enforcement about whether it complies with regulations. 5/16" Grade 70 chain should be plenty for a 463 but you could go to 3/8" if you want to be overly conservative. -I wouldn't think you would have to bind each corner of the skid steer at that weight, but it varies from state to state and doesn't hurt to do so. It will also give law enforcement less reason to inspect you closely. -I typically bind one end at a time- I usaully do the rear of the skid steer (front of the trailer) first and then bind the front of the skid steer (rear) last to get it snug. -I don't put the chain clevis into slots at the anchor points but rather loop through the anchor point and put the clevis back onto a chain link. -I tend to put a binder between the two sides of chain at each end to get snug. - Make sure you wrap the chain or a seperate wire around the binder lever after binding so the binder lever can't pop loose during transport. They sell manuals for a nominal cost (around $10) at truck stops on the legal methods for binding- it may be helpful for you to see the typical arrangement. Hope this helps.
The top ones with the ratchet in the link supplied above are required in Georgia. Started about 4 years ago.
Thanks everyone... Tigerhaze... while I havent towed this particular piece of equipment I am not entirely new to towing... I pull with a 2500HD Diesel and the trailer I am using is an 18ft equipment trailer... I also have ALL grade 70 5/16' chain... I wont look too out of place... I actually put in about 4k to 5k miles of towing in the winter with a much larger enclosed sled trailer...
I wasn't sure of your level of knowledge regarding trailering, so thought I would give some thoughts on it. It also helps others who may not be as familiar. I did find the manual I mentioned; it is published by JJ Keller and I found it at Pilot and Flying J truck stops but not sure what you have in your neck of the woods: http://www.jjkeller.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_Cargo-Securement-Handbook-for-Drivers_10151_-1_10551_63087 I also found this manual online- it is from the FMCSA so gives the Federal perspective on this: http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/safety-security/safety-initiatives/cargo/cs-manual.htm On my Bobcat 630, there are what appear to be factory attachment points at the four corners of the subframe for securing. However for the front of the skid steer I often secure around the loader arms and bucket because the loader blocks the front attachment points. I know my 610 also has securing point on the rear; not sure on a 463 though.Thanks everyone... Tigerhaze... while I havent towed this particular piece of equipment I am not entirely new to towing... I pull with a 2500HD Diesel and the trailer I am using is an 18ft equipment trailer... I also have ALL grade 70 5/16' chain... I wont look too out of place... I actually put in about 4k to 5k miles of towing in the winter with a much larger enclosed sled trailer...
More or less I am just a little apprehensive since its my first time with this specific application of towing... and I was more specifically looking if anyone had some good suggestions as to front end binding locations and/or if in NYS you are required to seperately chain or strap the bucket... the laws are a bit relaxed because of the weight of this skid from what I am seeing... I can use straps or chains... and while I may still strap the bucket it doesnt appear in any of the laws I have found so far for the 2900lbs of skid I have...
I will definately look for that book though as I am going to swing through a truck stop on the way home from picking up the trailer (getting a strengthened gate put on specifically for the bobcats width) so it will be more multi-purpose of a trailer than equipment ramps...
Everything you said definately helps...
No problem... I probably came across a little harsh in my response and for that I apologise... I was bummed as they didnt have that manual at Pilot... I am going to download that federal standards one though and give it a once over...
To make those hook slots work I am going to have to lose a LOT of chain...LOL My chains are between 8-10ft...LOL<p>Here are a couple shots...<p>http://i972.photobucket.com/albums/ae201/orgnoi1/Track Layout/2011_11_11-R01.jpg
ok its killing me... I really cant remember how I posted pictures before...LOL
I fixed you pictures.
Photobucket said it wouldnt allow that kind of share... strange... considering you had to have done that...LOL
Hi Orgnoi1,
Thanks for the post... everything went exactly as planned! There and back with no issues... and did a ton of work... thanks everyone for the help!
