MALLIE…….you have stated your position on these machines several times and I would agree with you in many situations, however, in the business and profile that we use them, they are one of the best machines ever made. The new style (popular) machine in the industry is running about 40K. It would cost at least 10K for someone in the industry to purchase one of my machines as they currently sit. I know a man running 25 M-610s in this industry (exactly like mine) and at a 30K savings per unit, that's $750,000.00 ………….. in my little world…..that's value. It would be silly for someone to sell a running/operating M-610 for $1200 when only four parts from it would bring 3-4K if they are in decent condition. Again, in many cases it would be easy to spend too much on one of these machines but I think you under value them to some degree.