L225 No Start After New Battery

[voglede]

I have a 2013 L225 that would not start one day. Lights came on, hit the start button, and the lights would all go out and then the system acted like it would reset. Put a charger on it and boosted (225 Amp Engine Start) it to get it running. I worked it for about 45 minutes and shut it off. Tried to start it and got the same issue as before. Boosted it again and parked it in the shop. I pulled the battery out and then it took a couple of days before I could find a new battery and get it installed. So it did sit with no power at all for a couple of days. The battery is from Interstate Battery and is the 31-XHD rated at 1000 CCA like the old CNHI battery that was removed.

I installed the new battery, crawled in, hit the power, tried to start it and I could hear the relay click but nothing happened. Then it beeped at me and gave me a 9153 error. I turned it off, back on, waited, and then I got a 1051 error with a 9153 after.

I have pulled every fuse out of both fuse blocks and tested with my multimeter and they all test fine. I have removed the battery cables and made sure they were clean and reinstalled. I made sure the ground strap that goes to the battery terminal was clean and tight. I am getting the same results. The 1051 error only appears occasionally, but the 9153 error comes up every single time.

Any other ideas of what I can try? I did notice something interesting. I have the system set so that it scrolls through all of the gauge readings. Everything looks normal until it gets to the coolant temperature. When that comes up, it claims that the coolant is at -40 F. It is getting chilly here in North Dakota, but not that chilly! I am not sure why that is reading so far off. The hydraulic temp reads correctly and is pretty close to what the air temperature is.

Thanks!
Del

 

[foton]

I have a 2013 L225 that would not start one day. Lights came on, hit the start button, and the lights would all go out and then the system acted like it would reset. Put a charger on it and boosted (225 Amp Engine Start) it to get it running. I worked it for about 45 minutes and shut it off. Tried to start it and got the same issue as before. Boosted it again and parked it in the shop. I pulled the battery out and then it took a couple of days before I could find a new battery and get it installed. So it did sit with no power at all for a couple of days. The battery is from Interstate Battery and is the 31-XHD rated at 1000 CCA like the old CNHI battery that was removed.

I installed the new battery, crawled in, hit the power, tried to start it and I could hear the relay click but nothing happened. Then it beeped at me and gave me a 9153 error. I turned it off, back on, waited, and then I got a 1051 error with a 9153 after.

I have pulled every fuse out of both fuse blocks and tested with my multimeter and they all test fine. I have removed the battery cables and made sure they were clean and reinstalled. I made sure the ground strap that goes to the battery terminal was clean and tight. I am getting the same results. The 1051 error only appears occasionally, but the 9153 error comes up every single time.

Any other ideas of what I can try? I did notice something interesting. I have the system set so that it scrolls through all of the gauge readings. Everything looks normal until it gets to the coolant temperature. When that comes up, it claims that the coolant is at -40 F. It is getting chilly here in North Dakota, but not that chilly! I am not sure why that is reading so far off. The hydraulic temp reads correctly and is pretty close to what the air temperature is.

Thanks!
Del

I would say that you need to look at your battery connections at battery and engine connections and any other body grounds you can find. You have voltage but not enough of a connection to be able to pull amps necessary to start.

 

[voglede]

I would say that you need to look at your battery connections at battery and engine connections and any other body grounds you can find. You have voltage but not enough of a connection to be able to pull amps necessary to start.

You were correct about the voltage; it was just not quite in the way of the grounds. I will start this by saying I have never been known to be a smart man. I will also redirect everyone's attention to my original post where I state that the machine sat without a battery for a couple of days. This plays an important role because it gives my brain a couple of days to forget things.

Last night I tore into this thing hard. I took the main ground from the battery to the frame and the 2 wires connected there as well off. I took emery cloth and got everything nice and shiny, bolts included, and then put it all back together. Went inside the cab and right by the fuse blocks, there was a ground block with 2 wires. I took both wires off, really cleaned this one up as it was rusty, and reassembled it. The same results when trying to start.

Now I'm frustrated. I am back at the engine looking for any wiring harness that might be corroded when I spot a large cable laying on the bottom pan that runs underneath the radiator. Is that another ground? I had to remove the battery so that I could get in there to see and that is when the light bulb moment happened and I felt like an idiot. That machine has 2 large positive cables. One with a hole that slides over the threaded battery terminal and then one with the nut that screws onto the battery terminal. I had both sitting on the battery tray, but when I slid the battery in, I pushed that one off the tray, and it fell and hid itself underneath the radiator. (If you have worked on this machine you know how tight everything is and how hard it is to see anything.) It's amazing when the machine is getting voltage from BOTH positive wires, it seems to be much happier.

So, I sheepishly admit that my no-start issue was all because of me. I hesitated to reply because it was a bonehead mistake, but I did reply in hopes that maybe I'm not the only bonehead in the world and this might help someone else from wanting to burn their machine to the ground.

 

[foton]

You were correct about the voltage; it was just not quite in the way of the grounds. I will start this by saying I have never been known to be a smart man. I will also redirect everyone's attention to my original post where I state that the machine sat without a battery for a couple of days. This plays an important role because it gives my brain a couple of days to forget things.

Last night I tore into this thing hard. I took the main ground from the battery to the frame and the 2 wires connected there as well off. I took emery cloth and got everything nice and shiny, bolts included, and then put it all back together. Went inside the cab and right by the fuse blocks, there was a ground block with 2 wires. I took both wires off, really cleaned this one up as it was rusty, and reassembled it. The same results when trying to start.

Now I'm frustrated. I am back at the engine looking for any wiring harness that might be corroded when I spot a large cable laying on the bottom pan that runs underneath the radiator. Is that another ground? I had to remove the battery so that I could get in there to see and that is when the light bulb moment happened and I felt like an idiot. That machine has 2 large positive cables. One with a hole that slides over the threaded battery terminal and then one with the nut that screws onto the battery terminal. I had both sitting on the battery tray, but when I slid the battery in, I pushed that one off the tray, and it fell and hid itself underneath the radiator. (If you have worked on this machine you know how tight everything is and how hard it is to see anything.) It's amazing when the machine is getting voltage from BOTH positive wires, it seems to be much happier.

So, I sheepishly admit that my no-start issue was all because of me. I hesitated to reply because it was a bonehead mistake, but I did reply in hopes that maybe I'm not the only bonehead in the world and this might help someone else from wanting to burn their machine to the ground.

everybody has had these moments of huge brain farts, you are not alone! just one of many! hahahahahhaa good that you found the problem .