deutz timing belt

[Tbone]

hey i have a 2002 s250 with a deutz. 900+ hours on it. should i be worried about the timing belt? i would change it myself, but it sounds to me like by the time i buy the timing pins, and the tool to read the tension, plus my time, i could have pretty near paid the stealer to change it for me, as it probably wont have to be changed again while i own it. just thought id ask. T

 

[Tazza]

It should be done at 1,000 hours.
I don't believe all the tools are NEEDED, i'm sure another user has done the job without them and it worked just fine. See what the dealer wants to do the job. If it fails, it will bend all your push rods.
Good luck

 

[siduramaxde]

It should be done at 1,000 hours.
I don't believe all the tools are NEEDED, i'm sure another user has done the job without them and it worked just fine. See what the dealer wants to do the job. If it fails, it will bend all your push rods.
Good luck

send it to the dealer to get done right. If the belt breaks you will have bent push rods and it will cost you triple what it would have cost you to replace the belt. Don't ask how I know .... You should also replace the oil in each drive motor carrier bearing. Do a search on here and you will find lots of info.

 

[bobbie-g]

send it to the dealer to get done right. If the belt breaks you will have bent push rods and it will cost you triple what it would have cost you to replace the belt. Don't ask how I know .... You should also replace the oil in each drive motor carrier bearing. Do a search on here and you will find lots of info.

Good evaluation on whether to buy the tools to do the belt right. The manual on my 751 (Peugeot engine) says the interval is 1600 hrs. I read thru the procedure and it doesn't seem too tricky. Only tricky part is the Melroe tool to hold the crank in place while loosening the 22mm bolt holding the main timing belt pulley in place. When I pick up my T180 from the Bobcat shop next week, I will ask to see that tool before I pay my rather hefty bill, hoping they'll be motivated to keep me happy. I'll have my tape measure with me so I can fabricate one. Rest of the stuff is just metric bolts to hold camshaft and fuel pump from moving. ---RC

 

[Tazza]

Good evaluation on whether to buy the tools to do the belt right. The manual on my 751 (Peugeot engine) says the interval is 1600 hrs. I read thru the procedure and it doesn't seem too tricky. Only tricky part is the Melroe tool to hold the crank in place while loosening the 22mm bolt holding the main timing belt pulley in place. When I pick up my T180 from the Bobcat shop next week, I will ask to see that tool before I pay my rather hefty bill, hoping they'll be motivated to keep me happy. I'll have my tape measure with me so I can fabricate one. Rest of the stuff is just metric bolts to hold camshaft and fuel pump from moving. ---RC

Bobbie - the 'tool' is just a pin punch for the fly wheel and a m8 bolt from memory for the cam and injector timing gears. Line the holes in the sprockets up to the holes in the block, screw said bolts in, put new belt on, PRESTO.
I went to the trouble to make them exactly right on my lathe, but just a bolt is good enough. If you need more details, just give me a yell.
Its a good idea to change the idler and trensioner if the bearings feel gritty at all.

 

[Tbone]

Bobbie - the 'tool' is just a pin punch for the fly wheel and a m8 bolt from memory for the cam and injector timing gears. Line the holes in the sprockets up to the holes in the block, screw said bolts in, put new belt on, PRESTO.
I went to the trouble to make them exactly right on my lathe, but just a bolt is good enough. If you need more details, just give me a yell.
Its a good idea to change the idler and trensioner if the bearings feel gritty at all.

what about the tool mentioned in the service manual for setting tension?

 

[bobbie-g]

what about the tool mentioned in the service manual for setting tension?

Taz, thx for the info. I'll be doing that in a few years. --- Tbone, I can't help you on the tension. The manual for my 751 indicates that it has a spring that provides the correct tension. But the 751 uses a different engine. ---RC

 

[bobbie-g]

Taz, thx for the info. I'll be doing that in a few years. --- Tbone, I can't help you on the tension. The manual for my 751 indicates that it has a spring that provides the correct tension. But the 751 uses a different engine. ---RC

Taz, did you do the timing belt on the Peugeot engine int the 751C you had at one time, or were you referring to some other engine? What did you finally do with the 751? Couldn't you speak French??? Or did you talk too much French when working on it? ---RC

 

[Tazza]

Taz, did you do the timing belt on the Peugeot engine int the 751C you had at one time, or were you referring to some other engine? What did you finally do with the 751? Couldn't you speak French??? Or did you talk too much French when working on it? ---RC

Tbone - i think another user did it by seeing what 'felt' right. Another managed to borrow the tension tool from his local Deutz dealer for only a few $. Its probably a good idea to get your dealer to do the job, or at least get a quote on the work.

 

[Tazza]

Tbone - i think another user did it by seeing what 'felt' right. Another managed to borrow the tension tool from his local Deutz dealer for only a few $. Its probably a good idea to get your dealer to do the job, or at least get a quote on the work.

Bobby - It was given a new home It was the same engine in the same machine. I had no idea how many hours it had on the old belt so it had to be changed, the odler and tensioner were both gritty so they had to go too. Parts were not at all cheap, but if the belt let go, it would have taken out valves and possible piston damage, for the $250 odd in parts, it was worth it. Its a beautiful engine, so smooth!
As for speaking french, the closest i came to that was swearing at it when i lost skin from my knuckles... multiple times while working on the rotten thing! but we all know how that goes right?