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Well after looking at Fyrwood Guy Cord King processor and a week or two of scratching my head and searchin everywhere I think have found a way to turn a 8' slasher into a firewood processor, without destoying its ablity to slash trees into 8'
Fyr was also good enough to give me a hour of his time covering the good and the areas that could use improvements, of his system.
I'm going to borrow his pics to from this thread http://www.skidsteerforum.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=54&frmView=ShowPost&PostID=21874 to show the simularities and differences.
Bellow is what I have
In my case I'd be puting a second hitchfor the slashers on the right rear outrigger of the loader (as opposed to have the slasher trailer centered behind the truck) The tree length wood could still be fead from the rear (as it is when slashing 8') but would need a converyor to advance it in small increments, the length of a block of firewood. Then a stop, to get the length right.
The cross member in the slasher, forward of the saw, would need to be made as a bolt in, so it can be removed to allow the blocks to drop into the spitter. The slasher would have to be lifted (with the loader boom) at the rear and set on drop legs to allow the splitter to fit underneath the rear of the slasher trailer. The splitter would shove the blocks forward to the center of the slasher where they could start up a conveyor and continue forward up along the passengers side ( except for you cross the pond guys, then its the driver side Allowing room for the outfeed conveyor is the reason to offset the slasher hitch to the rh outrigger.
The power unit has 150 hp, with 4 vane pump sectons, 2 putting out about 40 gpm each, and 2 somewhere in the 20 gpm range. (I'd have to flow test these to decide on hydraulic motor selection for the converors.
Also when putting the saw arm down to cut the block, the block stop needs to retract so it does not pinch the saw, a clamp need to come down to secure the log in position, I'm hoping this could all be acomplished by the saw valve, If it could somehow be set up to put say 1000 psi to the clamp and block stop retract b4 the saw arm would get any flow to move. I need to look into that and see if such a valve available. Then the splitter would also need to cycle, as well. Which I have a extra manual valve in the cab to divert one 20 gpm flow, but it would be better if it was a larger pump going here I think.
Presently the loader supplies one 39 gpm (at 1500 engine rpm) section to the slasher, about 1/5 of this (10.5 gpm) was already split off with a flow devider in the slasher and goes through a 3 section electric over hydraulic valve to control the slasher 3 cylinders. The rest goes to run the saw.
I can also divert the flow from one 22 gpm pump (the loader swing pump I believe) through a 2 way manual valve in the cab of the loader. This could be used to run the infeed conveyer intermitantly, but the loader swing would have to share that circuit. The outfeed conveyor may need its own power supply, if the loader is going to be able to run at the same time as the processor.
For those of you still with me, this setup would have the advantage of being able to load itself and process. It would replace a dedicated machine worth somewhere near 100 grand.
What are your thoughs?
Ken
Fyr was also good enough to give me a hour of his time covering the good and the areas that could use improvements, of his system.
I'm going to borrow his pics to from this thread http://www.skidsteerforum.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=54&frmView=ShowPost&PostID=21874 to show the simularities and differences.
Bellow is what I have
In my case I'd be puting a second hitchfor the slashers on the right rear outrigger of the loader (as opposed to have the slasher trailer centered behind the truck) The tree length wood could still be fead from the rear (as it is when slashing 8') but would need a converyor to advance it in small increments, the length of a block of firewood. Then a stop, to get the length right.
The cross member in the slasher, forward of the saw, would need to be made as a bolt in, so it can be removed to allow the blocks to drop into the spitter. The slasher would have to be lifted (with the loader boom) at the rear and set on drop legs to allow the splitter to fit underneath the rear of the slasher trailer. The splitter would shove the blocks forward to the center of the slasher where they could start up a conveyor and continue forward up along the passengers side ( except for you cross the pond guys, then its the driver side Allowing room for the outfeed conveyor is the reason to offset the slasher hitch to the rh outrigger.
The power unit has 150 hp, with 4 vane pump sectons, 2 putting out about 40 gpm each, and 2 somewhere in the 20 gpm range. (I'd have to flow test these to decide on hydraulic motor selection for the converors.
Also when putting the saw arm down to cut the block, the block stop needs to retract so it does not pinch the saw, a clamp need to come down to secure the log in position, I'm hoping this could all be acomplished by the saw valve, If it could somehow be set up to put say 1000 psi to the clamp and block stop retract b4 the saw arm would get any flow to move. I need to look into that and see if such a valve available. Then the splitter would also need to cycle, as well. Which I have a extra manual valve in the cab to divert one 20 gpm flow, but it would be better if it was a larger pump going here I think.
Presently the loader supplies one 39 gpm (at 1500 engine rpm) section to the slasher, about 1/5 of this (10.5 gpm) was already split off with a flow devider in the slasher and goes through a 3 section electric over hydraulic valve to control the slasher 3 cylinders. The rest goes to run the saw.
I can also divert the flow from one 22 gpm pump (the loader swing pump I believe) through a 2 way manual valve in the cab of the loader. This could be used to run the infeed conveyer intermitantly, but the loader swing would have to share that circuit. The outfeed conveyor may need its own power supply, if the loader is going to be able to run at the same time as the processor.
For those of you still with me, this setup would have the advantage of being able to load itself and process. It would replace a dedicated machine worth somewhere near 100 grand.
What are your thoughs?
Ken