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<blockquote data-quote="864wood" data-source="post: 161" data-attributes="member: 38"><p>The main reason for buying a rubber track loader has to be a predominate work load in the dirt environment. All the time I have had to operate my 864G on pavement you have to treat the tracks with kids gloves or you wind up with excessive wear and damage. For example a full 360dgree turn on pavement at full rpm will have you riding a bucking bronco and the bonus is if its a customers prized sealed driveway? Well you can figure on a new seal coat because tracks 18"wide per side and 7' long can do some major cosmetic damage to hard pavement. It also will climb curbs but do it slowly. The final bonus is that all track loaders will cleat excess dirt and debris in the undercarrige and it invariably shakes and sheds out when crawling on hard pavement. So take your flat shovel and street broom. Where this type of machine really shines is in dirt and muck. I have personnaly laid and spread 22 tandem loads of topsoil on a backfill job to cap 100% pure clay and muck. This also happens to be the very same job that I buried my machine on before the dirt started arriving. Problem was solved due to the timely help of Team Fountain. But the bottom line is with a wheeled loader the job was undoable. However with the low ground pressure I could cap the water and muck and float on top. It was like driving a bobcat on a waterbed. I have run this machine for 3 days in a row on harsh terrain and notice less fatigue than in a wheeled loader. This is due in part to the baby factor you have to figure on when operating a wheeled loader when the conditions are harsh. As for the gravel issue; forget about it. Track loaders do not suffer the ball crawl under the tires when loading the bucket. As far as it goes with large stones and gravel, well just get used to your own personel rock crusher. The advantage here is its adds extra stone dust to your crush and run. You will invariably hear some horrendous noises from your tracks. I havent popped a track yet and am still trying. Just keep the grease up in the suspension and you'll be fine. It will wear the inside of the tracks, but I have put 300hrs on my machine since purchase and haven't noticed any major difference. These machines were made for rough terrain and slopes. It feels better from an operators viewpoint to operate upslope than downslope. I would imagine a very large rock or piece of shale could cause some aggravation to a tracked machine, however this is preferable to knocking the bead in on the rim of a wheeeled loader and having to jack to machine on a slope remove tire without air tools and make round trip in excess of 3/4 mile. I like a workout, but personal abuse is another matter. As far as the final question: I personnaly do not take my machine out to a job without my 84" combo. It's awsesome!!!! My config is with teeth, so I use it for almost all digging. But where it really shine is final grading, swale cutting, reverse loading, cutting down very large and hardened piles of dirt ,dragging material and finally the grapel aspect of the bucket. It can be a pain when using to load dumpsters with trash, but is cool to pick up logs and boulders etc.... Lets just say that as a former helicopter pilot in the Army I can get pretty creative with my use of bucket and machine. Its my outlet since I no longer fly helos. I have consider filming a video on the muliple uses of a combo and how to achieve maximun performance but I am not sure its a money maker like my machine is. Lets just say, I like to make money and make my competion look bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="864wood, post: 161, member: 38"] The main reason for buying a rubber track loader has to be a predominate work load in the dirt environment. All the time I have had to operate my 864G on pavement you have to treat the tracks with kids gloves or you wind up with excessive wear and damage. For example a full 360dgree turn on pavement at full rpm will have you riding a bucking bronco and the bonus is if its a customers prized sealed driveway? Well you can figure on a new seal coat because tracks 18"wide per side and 7' long can do some major cosmetic damage to hard pavement. It also will climb curbs but do it slowly. The final bonus is that all track loaders will cleat excess dirt and debris in the undercarrige and it invariably shakes and sheds out when crawling on hard pavement. So take your flat shovel and street broom. Where this type of machine really shines is in dirt and muck. I have personnaly laid and spread 22 tandem loads of topsoil on a backfill job to cap 100% pure clay and muck. This also happens to be the very same job that I buried my machine on before the dirt started arriving. Problem was solved due to the timely help of Team Fountain. But the bottom line is with a wheeled loader the job was undoable. However with the low ground pressure I could cap the water and muck and float on top. It was like driving a bobcat on a waterbed. I have run this machine for 3 days in a row on harsh terrain and notice less fatigue than in a wheeled loader. This is due in part to the baby factor you have to figure on when operating a wheeled loader when the conditions are harsh. As for the gravel issue; forget about it. Track loaders do not suffer the ball crawl under the tires when loading the bucket. As far as it goes with large stones and gravel, well just get used to your own personel rock crusher. The advantage here is its adds extra stone dust to your crush and run. You will invariably hear some horrendous noises from your tracks. I havent popped a track yet and am still trying. Just keep the grease up in the suspension and you'll be fine. It will wear the inside of the tracks, but I have put 300hrs on my machine since purchase and haven't noticed any major difference. These machines were made for rough terrain and slopes. It feels better from an operators viewpoint to operate upslope than downslope. I would imagine a very large rock or piece of shale could cause some aggravation to a tracked machine, however this is preferable to knocking the bead in on the rim of a wheeeled loader and having to jack to machine on a slope remove tire without air tools and make round trip in excess of 3/4 mile. I like a workout, but personal abuse is another matter. As far as the final question: I personnaly do not take my machine out to a job without my 84" combo. It's awsesome!!!! My config is with teeth, so I use it for almost all digging. But where it really shine is final grading, swale cutting, reverse loading, cutting down very large and hardened piles of dirt ,dragging material and finally the grapel aspect of the bucket. It can be a pain when using to load dumpsters with trash, but is cool to pick up logs and boulders etc.... Lets just say that as a former helicopter pilot in the Army I can get pretty creative with my use of bucket and machine. Its my outlet since I no longer fly helos. I have consider filming a video on the muliple uses of a combo and how to achieve maximun performance but I am not sure its a money maker like my machine is. Lets just say, I like to make money and make my competion look bad. [/QUOTE]
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