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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Earthwerks Unlimited" data-source="post: 11126" data-attributes="member: 1300"><p>Jackel I'm sure the sales guy was giddy with excitement that he found BIG one (you, LOL). What I did when I was in your shoes was pose the cost issue back to the sales guy. Tell him to get out his equivalent to the automotive Blue Book. Give him some "for instances". For instance, you bought this expensive machine. What if you turned around the smae day and traded it? What is worth--retail, trade-in or wholesale. When I traded my '03 LS180 I trusted my dealer and he knew I was going to ask what they were going to sell it for--so he got ihis book out and showed me--$19,000 was retail not trade-in (they/New Holland owed me big time on the new '05 LS185.b I ordered). They in trum didn't add the traditional $2000 minimum markup as they wanted to just get it off their books--and they didn't take a loss either. The other thing I did was since I had already bought a $13,000 tractor from them with a Ford employee discount (saved about $3500), the owner gave me the '03 at a discount (about $8000 savings) and he showed me the New Holland invoice paperwork. But it gets better; New Holland either had to fix a bad hydraulic pump and gear system for me or give me $4000 toward a new one (the '05). New Holland deep discounted the '05 I have now to the dealer and they passed the discount on to me. Bottom line is I got a machine that stickered at over $45,000 for $32,000. (FYI: Technically the Ford employee discount is not available on "Yellow" construction equipment such as skid steers, dozers, backhoes, etc., only on "Blue" Agricultural equipment---some dealers will still give you the "discount" price which can be about 6% over cost, as was the case in my situation.) If you have good credit and have a business you can take advantage of depreciation by buying new--used stuff you cannot. I still think you need to forget about buying used and go new---look into it for your own good. It may cost you $20-40 a month more but it's BRAND NEW! With a warranty!</p></blockquote><p></p>

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