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J.D. CTL-333D problem with Tilt (bucket)
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<blockquote data-quote="SkidTracks" data-source="post: 55278" data-attributes="member: 5570"><p>Having problems with Tilt (bucket) on John Deere CTL 333D. There are three problems related to Tilt. The problems may not be caused by the same thing. One of the three problems has been confirmed to exist on a different (brand new) CTL 333D. Thus that problem is likely a design or manufacturing defect. The dealer and John Deere have made no progress in fixing any of the Tilt problems. Wondering if anyone owning or using a CTL 333D (or possibly related CTL model) has seen one of these Tilt problems? ------------------------- Problem #1) When the auxiliary hydraulics are being used for example with a brush hog, the CTL's Tilt slowly goes downward as if there is slight leak. Easily exceeding the machine's specified maximum amount of leak Tilt down. The boom is not effected and remains where it was set. The slow Tilt disappears if the auxiliary hydraulics are not in use (brush hog not spinning) and the CTL is stationary. The speed of the Tilt increases if the load on the brush hog increases. This Tilt problem has been seen when the CTL is having to carry heavy bucket load up hill, in essence calling for lots of hydraulic power to go to the transmission. ------------------------- Problem #2) When the auxiliary hydraulics are being used fox example with a brush hog and the brush hog becomes bogged down (turning slowly or nearly stalled), commanding a Tilt Up (raise front of brush hog) the Tilt instead goes down very rapidly (drops the front of brush hog). This Tilt down (drop) of course bogs the brush hog down even worse and again commanding the CTL to Tilt Up has no effect. Like problem #1, the boom is unaffected. This problem like #1 will happen with another attachment that uses auxiliary hydraulics to power a hydraulic motor. ------------------------- Problem #3) A command to Tilt Downward (take a bigger bite with a bucket) following a command to Tilt Upward (lessen the bite of a bucket) results in the Tilt Downward initially doing the opposite (Tilt Upward), before finally Tilting Downward. This Tilt problem will happen with a bucket, forks, box blade, or other attachments regardless of whether the auxiliary hydraulics are being used. This problem has been seen on another (new) CTL 333D. The problem makes it very hard to do leveling or grading work, and nearly impossible to make saw cuts. The problem can be seen when attempting to raise the machine to proper height to set the Track Tension. ------------------------- Any John Deere CTL or Skid Steer owners / users seen one or more of these Tilt problems?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SkidTracks, post: 55278, member: 5570"] Having problems with Tilt (bucket) on John Deere CTL 333D. There are three problems related to Tilt. The problems may not be caused by the same thing. One of the three problems has been confirmed to exist on a different (brand new) CTL 333D. Thus that problem is likely a design or manufacturing defect. The dealer and John Deere have made no progress in fixing any of the Tilt problems. Wondering if anyone owning or using a CTL 333D (or possibly related CTL model) has seen one of these Tilt problems? ------------------------- Problem #1) When the auxiliary hydraulics are being used for example with a brush hog, the CTL's Tilt slowly goes downward as if there is slight leak. Easily exceeding the machine's specified maximum amount of leak Tilt down. The boom is not effected and remains where it was set. The slow Tilt disappears if the auxiliary hydraulics are not in use (brush hog not spinning) and the CTL is stationary. The speed of the Tilt increases if the load on the brush hog increases. This Tilt problem has been seen when the CTL is having to carry heavy bucket load up hill, in essence calling for lots of hydraulic power to go to the transmission. ------------------------- Problem #2) When the auxiliary hydraulics are being used fox example with a brush hog and the brush hog becomes bogged down (turning slowly or nearly stalled), commanding a Tilt Up (raise front of brush hog) the Tilt instead goes down very rapidly (drops the front of brush hog). This Tilt down (drop) of course bogs the brush hog down even worse and again commanding the CTL to Tilt Up has no effect. Like problem #1, the boom is unaffected. This problem like #1 will happen with another attachment that uses auxiliary hydraulics to power a hydraulic motor. ------------------------- Problem #3) A command to Tilt Downward (take a bigger bite with a bucket) following a command to Tilt Upward (lessen the bite of a bucket) results in the Tilt Downward initially doing the opposite (Tilt Upward), before finally Tilting Downward. This Tilt problem will happen with a bucket, forks, box blade, or other attachments regardless of whether the auxiliary hydraulics are being used. This problem has been seen on another (new) CTL 333D. The problem makes it very hard to do leveling or grading work, and nearly impossible to make saw cuts. The problem can be seen when attempting to raise the machine to proper height to set the Track Tension. ------------------------- Any John Deere CTL or Skid Steer owners / users seen one or more of these Tilt problems? [/QUOTE]
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