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<blockquote data-quote="sgf" data-source="post: 127139" data-attributes="member: 8071"><p>I really appreciate everyone who took time to reply for their input but I am going with the oil I mentioned. It is locally available, a quality brand and affordable when compared to some of what I consider the ridiculous cost of some alternatives. I am the type who tries hard to use the right consumables. This is why I have spent a ridiculous amount of time researching this. Ultimately I know that if you look long and hard enough you will find recommendations that say you can only use the blood of unicorns found in the northern forests of Estonia or you'll destroy the machine. Others will say they have used water contaminated used oil for thirty years with no issue. I have read what were ultimately non-straight answers from presumably oil scientists and everyone in between. One dealer even varied from others.</p><p></p><p>You don't have to look farther than this thread to see the variety of opinions including the use of fluids and viscosities that were never recommended for this use, but obviously work well for some folks.</p><p></p><p>I typically always circle back to the manufacturer recommendations or at least as close as I can get, which is what I am doing in this case. Regarding contamination if you look at it with clarity it comes down to this. I, and probably most of you would prefer one "correct" fluid to be used throughout the machine's life. If you bought the machine new and were the exclusive user you're likely in good shape. If you are like many of us you likely have no clue what oil is in the system. Draining a hydraulic system helps increase the percentage of new oil a bit, but you are not draining a hyd. system fully. That's still contamination, as you are very likely mixing non-compatible fluids. I assure you the guys on the job site running these machines are more likely to be adding what is handy to get back to work. As mentioned previously the rental attachments are another issue. Unless you are evacuating and filtering the rental attachment's fluid before use (unlikely) or you got "really" lucky and all the previous renters used the exact same fluid as you, you have without question contaminated your hydraulic system.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately I am not totally pleased with my final decision but I do believe it is the best option for me. Most of these oils are similar until additives make them motor oil, transmission fluid, etc. Could I be mixing non-compatible fluids, yes, but when all is said and done I hope for the best.</p><p></p><p>This is already really long so I won't fully get into the variation in often informed opinions I have read. Grease research will take you down the same rabbit hole, trust me. Thanks again for the links and input, all of which I read and appreciated.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="sgf, post: 127139, member: 8071"] I really appreciate everyone who took time to reply for their input but I am going with the oil I mentioned. It is locally available, a quality brand and affordable when compared to some of what I consider the ridiculous cost of some alternatives. I am the type who tries hard to use the right consumables. This is why I have spent a ridiculous amount of time researching this. Ultimately I know that if you look long and hard enough you will find recommendations that say you can only use the blood of unicorns found in the northern forests of Estonia or you'll destroy the machine. Others will say they have used water contaminated used oil for thirty years with no issue. I have read what were ultimately non-straight answers from presumably oil scientists and everyone in between. One dealer even varied from others. You don't have to look farther than this thread to see the variety of opinions including the use of fluids and viscosities that were never recommended for this use, but obviously work well for some folks. I typically always circle back to the manufacturer recommendations or at least as close as I can get, which is what I am doing in this case. Regarding contamination if you look at it with clarity it comes down to this. I, and probably most of you would prefer one "correct" fluid to be used throughout the machine's life. If you bought the machine new and were the exclusive user you're likely in good shape. If you are like many of us you likely have no clue what oil is in the system. Draining a hydraulic system helps increase the percentage of new oil a bit, but you are not draining a hyd. system fully. That's still contamination, as you are very likely mixing non-compatible fluids. I assure you the guys on the job site running these machines are more likely to be adding what is handy to get back to work. As mentioned previously the rental attachments are another issue. Unless you are evacuating and filtering the rental attachment's fluid before use (unlikely) or you got "really" lucky and all the previous renters used the exact same fluid as you, you have without question contaminated your hydraulic system. Ultimately I am not totally pleased with my final decision but I do believe it is the best option for me. Most of these oils are similar until additives make them motor oil, transmission fluid, etc. Could I be mixing non-compatible fluids, yes, but when all is said and done I hope for the best. This is already really long so I won't fully get into the variation in often informed opinions I have read. Grease research will take you down the same rabbit hole, trust me. Thanks again for the links and input, all of which I read and appreciated. [/QUOTE]
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