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<blockquote data-quote="skidsteer.ca" data-source="post: 9343" data-attributes="member: 307"><p>The QA that Bobcat pioneered is the standard in the industry for the past 10 years on most every compeditor. Some for longer but you have to be carful here. ( I do believe Mustang and NH were some of the last ones to give up their own system. Also industry standard QA's can be bought to update the older loaders but of course adds to the overall cost)</p><p>The best bet is to get a spare attachment plate that you would weld on to a bucket or other attachment ($60 to $100) and take it shopping with you.</p><p> Also some loader brands require minor fine tuning to fit from one to the other. the older case 1845 used to have narrow lock pins that required extra wide holes in the bottom of the attachment plate. etc.</p><p>The big snag with switching hoes between brands is that everyone seem to have their own system to stabilize the bucket tilt cylinder. Bobcat used to use 2" trailer balls on their older 909 & 911 hoes from the early 90's back. After that they came out the 709 with a massive hook on the ouside of the loader boom. These hooks also serve to hold the loader boom up 6" to increase the clearance under the BH stabilizers.</p><p>The best system I seen was to ditch all the hooks and ball and use a quick release 3pt hitch top link. Extra mounts could be easily fabbed and it could be adjusted for various loaders, was plenty strong and could be adusted for length.</p><p>On the older Bobcats you can reach the steering levers from the hoe seat and move yourself provided you did not set the park brake b4 climbing out of the cab. Sometimes if the digging is tough you need the park brake to help hold the machine though. The Bobcats from 94 on have a electric PB that can be released from the hoe seat.</p><p>My new Holland LS 160 has a hand park brake beside the seat, so on that machine you would have to climb back in the cab to release it. I generally don't have to use the brake though, I try to get to my depth and do most of my digging pulling more up then towards myself. So this one really depends on the loader brand.</p><p>As for hyd flow most every loader will pump all the oil you need at a relatively low engine rpm, say 1/4 to 1/3 throttle.</p><p>Compared to a TLB a skidsteer can operate a hoe on a fair bit softer ground if equiped with tracks.</p><p>A 1200 lb hoe will be a big load for a 743, 751 753 but you can manage provided you don't want to back up more then a shallow incline, or you may have to counterweight the rear. </p><p>Ken</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="skidsteer.ca, post: 9343, member: 307"] The QA that Bobcat pioneered is the standard in the industry for the past 10 years on most every compeditor. Some for longer but you have to be carful here. ( I do believe Mustang and NH were some of the last ones to give up their own system. Also industry standard QA's can be bought to update the older loaders but of course adds to the overall cost) The best bet is to get a spare attachment plate that you would weld on to a bucket or other attachment ($60 to $100) and take it shopping with you. Also some loader brands require minor fine tuning to fit from one to the other. the older case 1845 used to have narrow lock pins that required extra wide holes in the bottom of the attachment plate. etc. The big snag with switching hoes between brands is that everyone seem to have their own system to stabilize the bucket tilt cylinder. Bobcat used to use 2” trailer balls on their older 909 & 911 hoes from the early 90's back. After that they came out the 709 with a massive hook on the ouside of the loader boom. These hooks also serve to hold the loader boom up 6” to increase the clearance under the BH stabilizers. The best system I seen was to ditch all the hooks and ball and use a quick release 3pt hitch top link. Extra mounts could be easily fabbed and it could be adjusted for various loaders, was plenty strong and could be adusted for length. On the older Bobcats you can reach the steering levers from the hoe seat and move yourself provided you did not set the park brake b4 climbing out of the cab. Sometimes if the digging is tough you need the park brake to help hold the machine though. The Bobcats from 94 on have a electric PB that can be released from the hoe seat. My new Holland LS 160 has a hand park brake beside the seat, so on that machine you would have to climb back in the cab to release it. I generally don't have to use the brake though, I try to get to my depth and do most of my digging pulling more up then towards myself. So this one really depends on the loader brand. As for hyd flow most every loader will pump all the oil you need at a relatively low engine rpm, say 1/4 to 1/3 throttle. Compared to a TLB a skidsteer can operate a hoe on a fair bit softer ground if equiped with tracks. A 1200 lb hoe will be a big load for a 743, 751 753 but you can manage provided you don't want to back up more then a shallow incline, or you may have to counterweight the rear. Ken [/QUOTE]
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