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Message: <blockquote data-quote="M700man" data-source="post: 2665" data-attributes="member: 365"><p>Ken, I understand what you are saying about the newer machines. I suppose we have to divide ourselves into two groups. Professional users and do-it-yourselfers. Personally, I don't have a lot of patience with some young engineer's brainstorm. We all have had great ideas, but most of them have not worked out too well. Of course, I haven't been able to sell my mistakes, just pay for them. Sure, some of them have worked, but a lot of the "improvements" are just plain nonsense. Of course, most of it is to box you in to going back to the dealer for service. Same way on the vehicles. Yes, a lot of the computer controls are great - when they work. But when they don't, they are expensive and time consuming to repair. I suppose I relish self-sufficiency too much. I have heard too many stories (a lot of them from Bobcat mechanics/shop foremans) about the problems with the electronics/computer control, etc. As to the AHC, I remember seeing a program on the Discovery channel on machines. One of the segments was on a John Deere combine (38' grain head, I believe) - huge machine. The owner said that he could put a 40-50 year old in the cab and he would have a hard time learning how to run it because ALL of the functions were controlled by the two joysticks. However, he could put a 18 year old in the seat and he would be running it like a professional in a matter of minutes. Why ? Because when John Deere designed the control system, they patterned it after the video games that these kids started playing when they were young. It's their world - they have grown up in it. Just not built for us old timers, because most of us won't be around much longer to run the new machines anyway. I now know how the blacksmith felt when he looked up and saw the first Model T coming down the road. When it comes to this new technology, most of it is not truly dependable. Thanks, John</p></blockquote><p></p>

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