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Message: <blockquote data-quote="skidsteer.ca" data-source="post: 4980" data-attributes="member: 307">What  model/ size machine do you currently have. I have a 2000 model 773 which is a s175,  and I would not rate it as over powered but seldom do i find it short of power either. I mow brush with a 5' cutter, dig, lift spread gravel and clay. We run steel  tracks on it  which greatly increase your traction and the ability of the machine to push into a pile. It can be stalled while doing this but it not a problem that make me bang my head. I guess more is better, if the machine stands up to the engine, I can see if you work at high elevations, or have  a demanding application that you do alot of. But I think the main rason Bobcat offers the turbo was to have extra hp available for air conditioning,I also just got a NH LS 160, which is the non turbo version of the the ls 170, at 42 hp it seems fine also. Though I have only used it to push snow so far.The best way would be to demo each, and see what fits you and your work best.Ken</blockquote>