Wheel spacers???

[Muzbomb]

Hello all I bought a 2018 S570 and I got a set of winter tires for it. They are 12-16.5 Dynamo Xtreme Grip + on bobcat rims. So the front loader boom rubs on the front tires when they boom is all way down so was looking at running 2” wheel spacers. I don’t know much about wheel spacers and wondering what’s your all thoughts.

 

[brdgbldr]

Hello all I bought a 2018 S570 and I got a set of winter tires for it. They are 12-16.5 Dynamo Xtreme Grip + on bobcat rims. So the front loader boom rubs on the front tires when they boom is all way down so was looking at running 2” wheel spacers. I don’t know much about wheel spacers and wondering what’s your all thoughts.

I’m not against wheel spacers but the further the tire is from the end of the axel the more stress that is put on the axle.

As long as you are not carrying heavy loads then the spacers should be fine.

You could also look into getting wheels with a bigger offset. I had some solid tires with wheels that could be mounted on either side depending on the clearance needed. That came in handy when I put steel tracks on the machine ( yes I know your not supposed to put steel tracks over solid tires).

 

[Muzbomb]

Ok thanks for the info man appreciate it. I just use the tires for winter and then change them out in spring the other tires I do not need the spacers. So would be just for the winters. All I use my skid steer for is cleaning snow in my yard and then just fluffing up the gravel driveway so average per year I put on is 20-30 hours a year so not a lot.

 

[RedNeckMike]

Did you measure your offset?
You may be able to flip tires around and solve your problem all though your air valve stem may be on wrong side. I had tires with valve stems on both sides sides of rims. Food for thought

 

[Muzbomb]

Yep that’s just w

Did you measure your offset?
You may be able to flip tires around and solve your problem all though your air valve stem may be on wrong side. I had tires with valve stems on both sides sides of rims. Food for thought

Yep That is just what I was looking at this morning. A buddy had same tires on his but it is a Kubota skid steer but you look at the rims the lip on them mine is less and his is more lip. His don’t rub.

 

[mrbb]

JUST throwing this out there, But some times I have seen folks turn wheel around and then mount on skid steer to get more offset
NOT always possible, but it has been done before


and lastly, it sounds to me like the wheels you got for these tires are NOT correct for your machine, they have wrong off set

have you maybe just tried contacting the place that sold them to you, and seeing if maybe they would exchange things for wheels that are correct off set, and not just correct bolt pattern!
even if you had to pay them to remount things, it should; be way cheaper than adding wheel spacers!


and lastly, if you don't mind, after some use of these tires, could you maybe tell us how you like them, how well they work


as Most dedicated snow tires I see for skid steers tend to be much more narrow , , NO bash here, honestly wondering how they work compared to dirt tires!

 

[Muzbomb]

JUST throwing this out there, But some times I have seen folks turn wheel around and then mount on skid steer to get more offset
NOT always possible, but it has been done before


and lastly, it sounds to me like the wheels you got for these tires are NOT correct for your machine, they have wrong off set

have you maybe just tried contacting the place that sold them to you, and seeing if maybe they would exchange things for wheels that are correct off set, and not just correct bolt pattern!
even if you had to pay them to remount things, it should; be way cheaper than adding wheel spacers!


and lastly, if you don't mind, after some use of these tires, could you maybe tell us how you like them, how well they work


as Most dedicated snow tires I see for skid steers tend to be much more narrow , , NO bash here, honestly wondering how they work compared to dirt tires!

Hey ya if I m turn them around there is no valve stems on that side kind of inconvenience. I would rather not run wheel spacers for sure. I think the right thing to do is buy the right rims. So I measured my buddy’s outside lip on his Kubota and measured my outside lip on my bobcat with the same tires. Looks like the answer is I need rims like his with the deeper lip so it pushes the tire out more.

 

[gearbox]

Wheel spacers or more offset is going to load your axel just the same amount . cost wise wheel spacer is way cheaper than wheels

 

[mrbb]

Hey ya if I m turn them around there is no valve stems on that side kind of inconvenience. I would rather not run wheel spacers for sure. I think the right thing to do is buy the right rims. So I measured my buddy’s outside lip on his Kubota and measured my outside lip on my bobcat with the same tires. Looks like the answer is I need rims like his with the deeper lip so it pushes the tire out more.

well, maybe an inconvenience about having to add air, but honestly how often do you need to do this? a good tire stays pretty close to full for a LONG time

and it would (if it worked that is) be way cheaper than buying wheel spacers or new wheels) I just threw this out as a possible work around for you! if you didn't ant to try and get right wheels or spacers!

However if it was me, i'd be contacting , the shop that sold you these tire /wheels,
as they SHOULD have the right wheels for your machine , and they should be willing to swap them for your current WRONG wheels for your machine, after all they sold you them and there not correct! and there pretty much new right? so, doubt they would make much of a fuss, minus, maybe a small fee to sway things !
be 100% worth at least trying IMO!

skid steer wheels are not a one size fits all machines deal!
and any good tire shop should know what will fit your make model yr machine correctly, and not just by bolt pattern, they need to have correct off set!

and I would think they would want you as happy customer,
SO< I would again try contacting them and getting correct wheels for your machine
as these you have now have wrong off set it seems!

 

[mrbb]

Wheel spacers or more offset is going to load your axel just the same amount . cost wise wheel spacer is way cheaper than wheels

if the wheels he has these tires on are incorrect for his machine, JUST getting the correct ones, will not add any more stress!
they will just fit correctly and have proper load on things!

but 100% if one added extra off set, past OEM SPEC ,then you;d be spot on with adding more stress to things!

 

[Muzbomb]

I am going to flip the wheels around with valve stems at the back just to see how they fit and if they work an no rubbing. Will take some measurements of the lip when it is flipped backwards.

 

[RedNeckMike]

I wonder if you filled them with foam.
Wouldn't need to worry about air and in the winter tires would be frozen stiff anyway so not much different. Lol more food for thought

 

[mrbb]

I am going to flip the wheels around with valve stems at the back just to see how they fit and if they work an no rubbing. Will take some measurements of the lip when it is flipped backwards.

It may or may not work,,
if I was you, I would highly suggest trying to get tire shop to swap wheels with correct ones, be way better off in the long run,!

 

[mrbb]

I wonder if you filled them with foam.
Wouldn't need to worry about air and in the winter tires would be frozen stiff anyway so not much different. Lol more food for thought

yes foam might prevent from needing air, BUT on snow tires,
however IMO< I don't think that's a good idea, as the way snow tires work best is, when they are able to flex and grip edges, (lots of snipes softer rubber to allow more flex, for grip , and well, many like more narrow tires for more ground force on contact patch of tires) for best traction on ice and snow~!
so I don't think a foam filled snow tire will have as much flex , defeating some of the gains a snow tire can have
I'm no expert, but thats my understanding on snow tires and how they work
after a few decades of plowing snow, its been what I have seen and experienced!

 

[Muzbomb]

I found some used rims for a great price. They measure out at like outside facing away from skid steer 9.5” lip and the other side which would face toward skid steer mounted up is 2.5” lip. My thoughts they would work to push the tire away from the machine if I am seeing that right.

 

[mrbb]

IF you go to teh bobcat web site, they show you all the different wheels that FIT 12x16.5 wheels
there are several and all have different off set or other things, which is why,. the correct wheels are model specific


these are the correct wheels for your machine based on bobcat web site

the link below will take you to YOUR wheels, I added the below info off the site, which includes spec's/measurements you can check

BUT there are AGAIN< several different wheels that are NOT correct for your model!(not that some MAY work, but they also may NOT work)
might have been better to check this stuff before just buying and just hoping you got right ones!
all the more so if you PAY to have tires installed only to learn there NOT correct! too!


https://shop.bobcat.com/16-5-x-9-75-wheel-rim-7232567

Standard orange rim for 12 x 16.5 Bobcat skid steer loader tire.

• Fits 12 x 16.5 tire
• Reversible
• Rim size 16.5 inches (diameter) x 9.75 inches wide
• Offset: 3.70 inches
• 8 inch pilot hole
• 8 bolt holes
• 3 inches between holes
• Powder coated Bobcat orange

[td]part # 7232567 supercedes 6730772[/td] [td width="267.331px"]Model

Compatibility[/td] [td width="620.843px"]Skid-Steer Loaders: S76, 763, 773, 825, 843, 853, 863, 873, 883, S130, S150, S160, S175, S185, S205, S220, S250, S300, S510, S530, S550, S570, S590, 751, S595, 753, S630, S650
Wheel Loaders: 2000
S560



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[mrbb]

here is also a link to ALL 6 wheels bobcat has for 12x16.5 tires, you can look at to see spec's and maybe match up to what you have

https://shop.bobcat.com/parts/rims-tires/rims?tire_size=2503


THERE also should be a part number on wheels, if there OEM, you can also look them up that way,, IF aftermarket wheels, well, then you MIGHT still be able too learn spec's if you know brand and they have resources you can use to find info on them off part number

 

[mrbb]

Other food for thought for you is, that MANY s570's came from the factory on 10x16.5 tires, not 12x16.5
so as such the wheels you have now might be for 10x16.5 tires

which would explain why the 12x16.5 tires rub on you!

they maybe correct for your model, but wrong for current tire size you have on them!

 

[Muzbomb]

IF you go to teh bobcat web site, they show you all the different wheels that FIT 12x16.5 wheels
there are several and all have different off set or other things, which is why,. the correct wheels are model specific


these are the correct wheels for your machine based on bobcat web site

the link below will take you to YOUR wheels, I added the below info off the site, which includes spec's/measurements you can check

BUT there are AGAIN< several different wheels that are NOT correct for your model!(not that some MAY work, but they also may NOT work)
might have been better to check this stuff before just buying and just hoping you got right ones!
all the more so if you PAY to have tires installed only to learn there NOT correct! too!


https://shop.bobcat.com/16-5-x-9-75-wheel-rim-7232567

Standard orange rim for 12 x 16.5 Bobcat skid steer loader tire.

• Fits 12 x 16.5 tire
• Reversible
• Rim size 16.5 inches (diameter) x 9.75 inches wide
• Offset: 3.70 inches
• 8 inch pilot hole
• 8 bolt holes
• 3 inches between holes
• Powder coated Bobcat orange

[td]part # 7232567 supercedes 6730772[/td] [td width="267.331px"]Model View attachment 10487Compatibility[/td] [td width="620.843px"]Skid-Steer Loaders: S76, 763, 773, 825, 843, 853, 863, 873, 883, S130, S150, S160, S175, S185, S205, S220, S250, S300, S510, S530, S550, S570, S590, 751, S595, 753, S630, S650
Wheel Loaders: 2000
S560



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Ya thanks for the helpful tips there hey specially this one

BUT there are AGAIN< several different wheels that are NOT correct for your model!(not that some MAY work, but they also may NOT work)
might have been better to check this stuff before just buying and just hoping you got right ones!
all the more so if you PAY to have tires installed only to learn there NOT correct! too!

Hahahaha really point out the obvious there got to love the should have, could have and would have guys.

 

[mrbb]

Ya thanks for the helpful tips there hey specially this one

BUT there are AGAIN< several different wheels that are NOT correct for your model!(not that some MAY work, but they also may NOT work)
might have been better to check this stuff before just buying and just hoping you got right ones!
all the more so if you PAY to have tires installed only to learn there NOT correct! too!

Hahahaha really point out the obvious there got to love the should have, could have and would have guys.

well I stated right from my first post(as did others) that you had wheels with wrong off set, and you needed correct off set wheels!
also stated that you should contact the place that sold you these tries wheels and have them get you correct wheels
and even give them a chance to make it right with you on things(which most shop do)
SO< not exactly would have could have should have ! HAHAHA!

all the more so before just buying more wheels without knowing if there correct or not! and just adding you maybe loss $$$

I'm sure we all have learned some thing the hard way, by mistakes we made! (I know I ain't perfect by any means!)
, but we all should be doing what we can to limit learning the hard way when we can!
wheels come in many sizes, and NOT all skid steers take teh same size, from brand to brand or even model to model, they can be different, and any GOOD tire shop should know this

just cause the bolt pattern is the same, doesn't mean they are correct wheels!

this is also the same deal on vehicles and most all machines that take tires!