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<blockquote data-quote="jeffco" data-source="post: 27598" data-attributes="member: 2081"><p>As far as mig welders are concerned I recommend 200 amp and would not advise anything 120 volt. I have owned Millermatic 200's and Lincoln Powermig 225's, currently I own an HTP 200. It is every bit as good as Miller or Lincoln but was under 1000.00. Came from HTP america in Chicago. Came with a tweco gun which eliminates the usual problem of where do I get consumables for the gun on an off name mig. Be careful, some cheap migs are little more than a cheap battery charger. HTP is built very tough on the inside, in my opinion. I have run about 100 lbs of wire through it and am happy with its performance. I weld everything from sheet metal to bucket edges that can be an inch or thicker in multiple passes. You just can't get that flexibility with a 120v powered mig which peaks at 140 amps output with a 20 percent duty cycle. Duty cycle is important so be sure to look at it, in my case it is 80 percent at 120 amps, or weld 8 minutes and rest 2 minutes as opposed to weld one or two minutes and wait 8 minutes. The cheaper its made, the less duty cycle. You exceed the limit and if you are lucky the thermal protector will protect and shut the welder down till it cools. If not you will do damage that will shorten the life or can burn it up on the spot. Not that you will want a stick welder but they are available in Inverter models and are priced reasonable, Lincoln also has an IdealArc AC/DC 200 amp transformer stick welder in the 300.00 range. Good basic machine but really outdated as far as weld quality as compared to a mig. Remember to check duty cycle on any welder you consider, buy a welder with the duty cycle you can live with, I can tell you from experience, it sneaks up on you quick when you don't have enough. However to be fair, I rarely weld for 8 straight minutes with my mig, nice to know that I can though. Let me know if I can help. jeffco</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jeffco, post: 27598, member: 2081"] As far as mig welders are concerned I recommend 200 amp and would not advise anything 120 volt. I have owned Millermatic 200's and Lincoln Powermig 225's, currently I own an HTP 200. It is every bit as good as Miller or Lincoln but was under 1000.00. Came from HTP america in Chicago. Came with a tweco gun which eliminates the usual problem of where do I get consumables for the gun on an off name mig. Be careful, some cheap migs are little more than a cheap battery charger. HTP is built very tough on the inside, in my opinion. I have run about 100 lbs of wire through it and am happy with its performance. I weld everything from sheet metal to bucket edges that can be an inch or thicker in multiple passes. You just can't get that flexibility with a 120v powered mig which peaks at 140 amps output with a 20 percent duty cycle. Duty cycle is important so be sure to look at it, in my case it is 80 percent at 120 amps, or weld 8 minutes and rest 2 minutes as opposed to weld one or two minutes and wait 8 minutes. The cheaper its made, the less duty cycle. You exceed the limit and if you are lucky the thermal protector will protect and shut the welder down till it cools. If not you will do damage that will shorten the life or can burn it up on the spot. Not that you will want a stick welder but they are available in Inverter models and are priced reasonable, Lincoln also has an IdealArc AC/DC 200 amp transformer stick welder in the 300.00 range. Good basic machine but really outdated as far as weld quality as compared to a mig. Remember to check duty cycle on any welder you consider, buy a welder with the duty cycle you can live with, I can tell you from experience, it sneaks up on you quick when you don't have enough. However to be fair, I rarely weld for 8 straight minutes with my mig, nice to know that I can though. Let me know if I can help. jeffco [/QUOTE]
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