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<blockquote data-quote="WebbCo" data-source="post: 4449" data-attributes="member: 574"><p>99 percent of tires are made offshore, why? ever see a rubber tree in the USA, Even the brand we sell at the dealership is made offshore, however, I find it hard to belive all the features are all there in the economy tires. Compare the tires in specs not looks, many economy tires are what we call in the business UNDERCUT, meaning that the tires are short in height. So simply putting them on your machine lowers the ground clearance. most people dont even notice this! Then check the space between each lug, can you put your finger through it? maybe two fingers? Better tires will have the lugs closer together so that when you turn on hard surfaces the lugs dont seporate. Ever noticed how skid steers jerk when you turn them on hard surfaces, the lugs are doing that. Sidewalls and bead quard? Many economy tires push that but dont have any more thickness in the tire and can have a tendecy to bulge giving the machine a wash/flimsy feel when loaded. Ply rating, trully not a measure of how many plys but how thick/strong is the sidewall in nature to hold weight. Ever notice a machine with the tires bulging in the center of the tread? Economy tires usually are built going from the side to the top of the tire across the face and then stop, then start again at the other side of the tire, go up to the tread, across the tread and stop. Better tires go up across and down full legth! These tires dont bulge in the middle, and keep more tread on the surface to minimize wear. Finally did you actually measure the tread depth? Most econmy tires are 24/32s deep, thats 11/32s short of the premium tires depth. Then the compond in each tire is very important, simple test is to push a sharp object into the tread, how far where you able to push it in? The other side of the coin is if your tire compond is too hard, yes that can be a problem also, some are so hard that they pull the lugs off.</p><p>Im not trying to dis on anyones purchases, Im just sharing what I have been through at my dealership for over 10 years. When I started selling tires for Bobcat nobody came back and purchased replacements, so I spent time and money to find out who builds better tires. Yes I still have to stock bobcat brands but I dont sell many of them, my aftermarked tires sell 1000 to 1 vs the bobcat brand. We went from 25 grand a year in tire sales 10 years ago to currently 300 grand per year, 3 containers per year. The best thing is when a customer comes back in for a set and they tell me they bought some elsewhere for 50 percent less than mine 3 months ago and they are gone. When comparing, really look at the specs! Many tire stores only sell the brand name that usually on the side of the building. Ecomomy or not!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WebbCo, post: 4449, member: 574"] 99 percent of tires are made offshore, why? ever see a rubber tree in the USA, Even the brand we sell at the dealership is made offshore, however, I find it hard to belive all the features are all there in the economy tires. Compare the tires in specs not looks, many economy tires are what we call in the business UNDERCUT, meaning that the tires are short in height. So simply putting them on your machine lowers the ground clearance. most people dont even notice this! Then check the space between each lug, can you put your finger through it? maybe two fingers? Better tires will have the lugs closer together so that when you turn on hard surfaces the lugs dont seporate. Ever noticed how skid steers jerk when you turn them on hard surfaces, the lugs are doing that. Sidewalls and bead quard? Many economy tires push that but dont have any more thickness in the tire and can have a tendecy to bulge giving the machine a wash/flimsy feel when loaded. Ply rating, trully not a measure of how many plys but how thick/strong is the sidewall in nature to hold weight. Ever notice a machine with the tires bulging in the center of the tread? Economy tires usually are built going from the side to the top of the tire across the face and then stop, then start again at the other side of the tire, go up to the tread, across the tread and stop. Better tires go up across and down full legth! These tires dont bulge in the middle, and keep more tread on the surface to minimize wear. Finally did you actually measure the tread depth? Most econmy tires are 24/32s deep, thats 11/32s short of the premium tires depth. Then the compond in each tire is very important, simple test is to push a sharp object into the tread, how far where you able to push it in? The other side of the coin is if your tire compond is too hard, yes that can be a problem also, some are so hard that they pull the lugs off. Im not trying to dis on anyones purchases, Im just sharing what I have been through at my dealership for over 10 years. When I started selling tires for Bobcat nobody came back and purchased replacements, so I spent time and money to find out who builds better tires. Yes I still have to stock bobcat brands but I dont sell many of them, my aftermarked tires sell 1000 to 1 vs the bobcat brand. We went from 25 grand a year in tire sales 10 years ago to currently 300 grand per year, 3 containers per year. The best thing is when a customer comes back in for a set and they tell me they bought some elsewhere for 50 percent less than mine 3 months ago and they are gone. When comparing, really look at the specs! Many tire stores only sell the brand name that usually on the side of the building. Ecomomy or not! [/QUOTE]
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