T250 Bobcat Conversion to High Flow

[Pumpshed13]

I have a 2006 T250 Bobcat with Standard Flow Hydraulics and would like to get high flow out of it. Is this possible? Has anyone here ever added a high flow pump to a low flow machine? Is it worth the cost & trouble? If you have do you just added the additional pump or do the charge pump and standard pump require changing to a different version? Thanks

 

[TriHonu]

Shane did a T300 a while back. He wrote about it in THIS THREAD.
He has not posted on the forum since 2009 and his website no longer exists.

 

[Pumpshed13]

Shane did a T300 a while back. He wrote about it in THIS THREAD.
He has not posted on the forum since 2009 and his website no longer exists.

Thanks for the thread link. I appreciate it.

 

[Bobcatdan]

Thanks for the thread link. I appreciate it.

Can it be done, yes anything can be done. Converting to high flow is not worth it in my book. It is not factory approved nor is there any kit. It would have to 100% pieced out. I know Bobcat of Madison did one once and it was a $17,000 pain in the ass, they refuse to do anymore. What do you think you need high flow for?

 

[Pumpshed13]

Can it be done, yes anything can be done. Converting to high flow is not worth it in my book. It is not factory approved nor is there any kit. It would have to 100% pieced out. I know Bobcat of Madison did one once and it was a $17,000 pain in the ass, they refuse to do anymore. What do you think you need high flow for?

I have two attachments that I got a screaming deal on that are high flow. So I figured pump vs. motors $$$ and having high flow handy. Machine is prewired for high flow. Plus its a good challenge & keeps me out of the Tavern...

 

[Tazza]

I have two attachments that I got a screaming deal on that are high flow. So I figured pump vs. motors $$$ and having high flow handy. Machine is prewired for high flow. Plus its a good challenge & keeps me out of the Tavern...

You can do your sums and see what they add up to.
Just a few parts that come to mind that you will need are:
larger oil cooler
larger lines to the cooler
pump (solenoid i believe to allow the extra flow to be directed to the control block)
not sure if you will need a new control block or not
larger aux lines
programming of the controller, the dealer will need to enable it.
If you do go this route, i'd be interested in seeing/hearing how you go.

 

[Bobcatdan]

You can do your sums and see what they add up to.
Just a few parts that come to mind that you will need are:
larger oil cooler
larger lines to the cooler
pump (solenoid i believe to allow the extra flow to be directed to the control block)
not sure if you will need a new control block or not
larger aux lines
programming of the controller, the dealer will need to enable it.
If you do go this route, i'd be interested in seeing/hearing how you go.

I see the easier route is to replace the motors on said attachments to the standard 17 GPM flow rate. Nothing is ever going to change my stance that a high flow conversion is a silly waste of time and money.

 

[Tazza]

I see the easier route is to replace the motors on said attachments to the standard 17 GPM flow rate. Nothing is ever going to change my stance that a high flow conversion is a silly waste of time and money.

It does allow more HP to get to the attachment to allow you to do more work with it, some need it, others really don't.

 

[bobcatguy]

I didn't look to see where you're located but I know Bobcat Enterprises in Cincinnati OH has done a few. I had a S650 done there for a customer that wanted H.F. It cost around $3500 if I recall correctly and that was with the dealer doing it. A few here have said that there is no kit. For the older machines there was a kit that could be bought or that is what I was told by my Bobcat dealer/parts supplier. If you can find a good parts guy call them and with a little time they should be able to generate a list of things needed. Most of what was added to the 650 I did were small fittings and the big money part being the charge pump. My customer has had NO problems with his machine after the upgrade. If your machine is paid for I see no reason not to upgrade it to high flow versus buying a new machine. Just my .02.

 

[bobcatguy]

I didn't look to see where you're located but I know Bobcat Enterprises in Cincinnati OH has done a few. I had a S650 done there for a customer that wanted H.F. It cost around $3500 if I recall correctly and that was with the dealer doing it. A few here have said that there is no kit. For the older machines there was a kit that could be bought or that is what I was told by my Bobcat dealer/parts supplier. If you can find a good parts guy call them and with a little time they should be able to generate a list of things needed. Most of what was added to the 650 I did were small fittings and the big money part being the charge pump. My customer has had NO problems with his machine after the upgrade. If your machine is paid for I see no reason not to upgrade it to high flow versus buying a new machine. Just my .02.

II I get some time I'll see if I can find my invoice for the conversion and see if they have the parts listed for the 650 I had done. I don't think they did tho. What is your reason for converting? As I understand it, It wont do much other than blow seals if you connect it to standard flow machines. I've had customers claim they used high flow on standard flow attachments but it turned out their machine wasn't a high flow. A lot of people think because the button is there it's high flow.

 

[Bobcatdan]

II I get some time I'll see if I can find my invoice for the conversion and see if they have the parts listed for the 650 I had done. I don't think they did tho. What is your reason for converting? As I understand it, It wont do much other than blow seals if you connect it to standard flow machines. I've had customers claim they used high flow on standard flow attachments but it turned out their machine wasn't a high flow. A lot of people think because the button is there it's high flow.

High flow does not equal more power. You have higher flow, flow equals speed. System pressure is the same. Highflow will allow faster feed rate, but any power gain is purely from additional momentum.

 

[Phil314]

I didn't look to see where you're located but I know Bobcat Enterprises in Cincinnati OH has done a few. I had a S650 done there for a customer that wanted H.F. It cost around $3500 if I recall correctly and that was with the dealer doing it. A few here have said that there is no kit. For the older machines there was a kit that could be bought or that is what I was told by my Bobcat dealer/parts supplier. If you can find a good parts guy call them and with a little time they should be able to generate a list of things needed. Most of what was added to the 650 I did were small fittings and the big money part being the charge pump. My customer has had NO problems with his machine after the upgrade. If your machine is paid for I see no reason not to upgrade it to high flow versus buying a new machine. Just my .02.

bobcatguy - just wondering if you had any more specific information on what is needed for a high flow conversion on an S650. I'm looking into it at the moment and any help would be great.

 

[Phil314]

bobcatguy - just wondering if you had any more specific information on what is needed for a high flow conversion on an S650. I'm looking into it at the moment and any help would be great.

Anybody? From my looking so far, it seems similar to doing a 250 conversion.

 

[Tazza]

Anybody? From my looking so far, it seems similar to doing a 250 conversion.

It depends on if it's actually worth the cost, some times it's cheaper to just sell your stardard flow machine and get a high flow one.
If you do decide to convert yours, please document it and let us know what you did. I have never tried to do it myself, but would be quite interesting.