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<blockquote data-quote="bobcat_ron" data-source="post: 21248" data-attributes="member: 1066"><p>The ASV's are now Terex, and I think Terex's MTL's are now only the 30,60, 80 and the 100, the in between models may have been discontinued as Terex's ads for the MTL lines mentions nothing of the 70.</p><p>Takeuchi makes the CTL's for Gehl/Mustang names, the only thing Mustang/Gehl does is shorten the height of the cab 6" and they use a swing out door, Takeuchi uses a roll up door like an excavator front window, but their cabs are taller, so overall height from the ground up is around 86", not a big deal if you are in wide open areas, but if you need to do anything inside a building, look out.</p><p>Cat B series and Takeuchi's both use hydraulic over hydraulic pilot controls and they can be switched over to the Case pattern if that's what you want, the older Tak's had the aux. control on the left joystick, but the new 200 series have them on the right and they added a foot pedal for your throttle (thank God) The new Cat C series use the Electric over Hydraulic pilot controls (E/H) from Rexroth, Deere and New Holland also use the same system, and oddly enough, so does Bobcat, and no one knows why Bobcat has so many problems with them, but it started out with simple wires and went to hell from there.</p><p>Takeuchi knows how to build a CTL, you will get a bigger machine in a smaller package and their drive motors and rollers are long lasting. They just lack some balance, they have less track on the rear of the machine, so the weight balance feels like 80/20, but if you are like me and you use a heavy combo bucket, you get the balance back.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bobcat_ron, post: 21248, member: 1066"] The ASV's are now Terex, and I think Terex's MTL's are now only the 30,60, 80 and the 100, the in between models may have been discontinued as Terex's ads for the MTL lines mentions nothing of the 70. Takeuchi makes the CTL's for Gehl/Mustang names, the only thing Mustang/Gehl does is shorten the height of the cab 6” and they use a swing out door, Takeuchi uses a roll up door like an excavator front window, but their cabs are taller, so overall height from the ground up is around 86”, not a big deal if you are in wide open areas, but if you need to do anything inside a building, look out. Cat B series and Takeuchi's both use hydraulic over hydraulic pilot controls and they can be switched over to the Case pattern if that's what you want, the older Tak's had the aux. control on the left joystick, but the new 200 series have them on the right and they added a foot pedal for your throttle (thank God) The new Cat C series use the Electric over Hydraulic pilot controls (E/H) from Rexroth, Deere and New Holland also use the same system, and oddly enough, so does Bobcat, and no one knows why Bobcat has so many problems with them, but it started out with simple wires and went to hell from there. Takeuchi knows how to build a CTL, you will get a bigger machine in a smaller package and their drive motors and rollers are long lasting. They just lack some balance, they have less track on the rear of the machine, so the weight balance feels like 80/20, but if you are like me and you use a heavy combo bucket, you get the balance back. [/QUOTE]
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