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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tazza" data-source="post: 14959" data-attributes="member: 82">I too do the wire trick and a pair of pointy nose pliers.The only way i can think to get the spring is to pull the sump, but you really don't want to do that!. I was thinking if you could install a magnetic sump plug you may get the spring after it has run for a while it may move past and be caught. I have a machine that never had that flexible hose from the sump, only a plug. Bit messy to change oil but nothing a bit of de-greaser won't fix.</blockquote>