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<blockquote data-quote="mrbb" data-source="post: 124201" data-attributes="member: 13825"><p>well, just going to say this, I ain;'t no expert but have decades of plowing snow experience!</p><p> however, without knowing what snow tire you have NOW< would be hard for me or anyone else to maybe recommend something else???</p><p>skid steer tires are NOT all the same, but they all only add so much help to traction, watch any video even my OEM's of the tires and you will see, what I mean, the increase is there but its not a HUGE difference , the terrain your plowing tends to be the deciding factor if there worth using or not, on just FLAT ground, maybe not, on hills they again DO help, so that is a plus for them IMO< as dirt tires on compacted snow on even slight hills suck!</p><p></p><p>so maybe tell us what you have now?? and maybe someone can offer a better option to consider</p><p> the good news is, selling used snow tires should be rather easy, many do like them so there is a market for them!</p><p></p><p> NEXT take a grain of salt no bash meant here!</p><p> snow tires are not magic, they honestly only increase snow ice traction IMO about 20% IF that</p><p> yes they Do work better but they again are not magic things that give you great traction in snow and ice!m, as as they wear they only loose the perks they have over dirt tires!, as is loosing snipes and sharp clean edges! which si what makes them grab and gain traction!(some folks I know use tire cutters to re do as things wear and it DOES HELP, but again, not perfect),</p><p> NEXT, and again NO bash meant here just saying things I have found over the decades plowing snow</p><p> using a BLOWER, sort of compounds the problems with poor snow traction on skid steers, as it tends to NOT even TRY to clean down to the surface, leaving snow on top, which then gets compacted by the tires, THEN< add in the added weight of the blower, all the more so if going up any hills, and your sort of fighting a loosing battle on traction!</p><p> as you already found, the CHAINS get you the traction you sort of want, as they can make it thru the snow the blower is leaving on the surface and getting down to the hard ground under it, BUT all the negatives of chains are also very there for you to notice!</p><p></p><p>SO< basically, its picking what works over its negatives!</p><p></p><p> IF you don't plow a lot of hills, STUDS do work better than just snow tires if you STUD snow tires , you will get better traction than studding a dirt tire, but key to studs working is adding enough of them to make a difference! and they sell screw in studs for all types of tires, which again DO work, and it might be worth trying, IMO!~</p><p></p><p> and keep in mind if your again are using a blower, I also hope your using counter weights, if there possible to add to your machine, to help keep weight on all 4 tires to help with traction, NOT having counter weights and running ab blower IMO< is hurting your situation </p><p></p><p>Last keep in mind that running chains and or STUDS< can damage and harm the surface of what you are plowing/blowing on, which can lead to damage claims by owners come spring time, I would recommend talking to clients before taking there jobs on and explaining to them the risks, it can save you a lot of head aches later on, all the more so if you have a contract wrote up well to specify things!</p><p> maybe not what you want to hear, but I hope it helps with some info to consider!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mrbb, post: 124201, member: 13825"] well, just going to say this, I ain;'t no expert but have decades of plowing snow experience! however, without knowing what snow tire you have NOW< would be hard for me or anyone else to maybe recommend something else??? skid steer tires are NOT all the same, but they all only add so much help to traction, watch any video even my OEM's of the tires and you will see, what I mean, the increase is there but its not a HUGE difference , the terrain your plowing tends to be the deciding factor if there worth using or not, on just FLAT ground, maybe not, on hills they again DO help, so that is a plus for them IMO< as dirt tires on compacted snow on even slight hills suck! so maybe tell us what you have now?? and maybe someone can offer a better option to consider the good news is, selling used snow tires should be rather easy, many do like them so there is a market for them! NEXT take a grain of salt no bash meant here! snow tires are not magic, they honestly only increase snow ice traction IMO about 20% IF that yes they Do work better but they again are not magic things that give you great traction in snow and ice!m, as as they wear they only loose the perks they have over dirt tires!, as is loosing snipes and sharp clean edges! which si what makes them grab and gain traction!(some folks I know use tire cutters to re do as things wear and it DOES HELP, but again, not perfect), NEXT, and again NO bash meant here just saying things I have found over the decades plowing snow using a BLOWER, sort of compounds the problems with poor snow traction on skid steers, as it tends to NOT even TRY to clean down to the surface, leaving snow on top, which then gets compacted by the tires, THEN< add in the added weight of the blower, all the more so if going up any hills, and your sort of fighting a loosing battle on traction! as you already found, the CHAINS get you the traction you sort of want, as they can make it thru the snow the blower is leaving on the surface and getting down to the hard ground under it, BUT all the negatives of chains are also very there for you to notice! SO< basically, its picking what works over its negatives! IF you don't plow a lot of hills, STUDS do work better than just snow tires if you STUD snow tires , you will get better traction than studding a dirt tire, but key to studs working is adding enough of them to make a difference! and they sell screw in studs for all types of tires, which again DO work, and it might be worth trying, IMO!~ and keep in mind if your again are using a blower, I also hope your using counter weights, if there possible to add to your machine, to help keep weight on all 4 tires to help with traction, NOT having counter weights and running ab blower IMO< is hurting your situation Last keep in mind that running chains and or STUDS< can damage and harm the surface of what you are plowing/blowing on, which can lead to damage claims by owners come spring time, I would recommend talking to clients before taking there jobs on and explaining to them the risks, it can save you a lot of head aches later on, all the more so if you have a contract wrote up well to specify things! maybe not what you want to hear, but I hope it helps with some info to consider! [/QUOTE]
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