skidsteer won't fire now

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wackman

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I have a case xt40. It's been cold-blooded, but I have been able to start it in the past. Today, I had the starter/charger hooked up and it was turning over and I thought it was going to start but it never did. The battery shows over 12v on the meter, but when I try to start it now, it won't fire. Turns over but won't fire. I don't know what to try next. Since it won't start, I can't lift the bucket so I can tip the cab forward to get at it. I'm pretty new to this skidsteer business and stymied at this point. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Any smoke?
Could the fuel have geled?
just went out and tried it again to see. Smoked like a bandit, fired and I thought it was going to start, but no go. now the same thing again. I hooked up my charger/starter again, but that doesn't seem to do anything as far as helping to start. Must have burned that up. If it was gelled fuel, what would you add to help that?
 
just went out and tried it again to see. Smoked like a bandit, fired and I thought it was going to start, but no go. now the same thing again. I hooked up my charger/starter again, but that doesn't seem to do anything as far as helping to start. Must have burned that up. If it was gelled fuel, what would you add to help that?
Tried again, it smokes some as it turns over, but won't fire again. I have left it on the charger. If I need to change the battery, how do you open the cab, if you can't start it and raise the loader.
 
Tried again, it smokes some as it turns over, but won't fire again. I have left it on the charger. If I need to change the battery, how do you open the cab, if you can't start it and raise the loader.
If it smokes out the exhaust you have fuel getting to the engine. It is possible the engine is "flooded" due to the cold weather and slow cranking. I would heat the unit with a propane or diesel fired heater positioned so the engine area gets the most heat. Another trick is to heat the intake air with a heat gun directly in the intake when you crank it over. The battery will need to be up so charge it or give it a good jump so it spins as it should. Some would suggest ether as a starting aid but I do not. Ether in the wrong hands has destroyed plenty of engines. I use power service diesel fuel treatment to prevent gelling and they make a formula for already gelled fuel I believe it is called 911. If it smokes pretty good you are likely getting close to it firing up and running.
 
If it smokes out the exhaust you have fuel getting to the engine. It is possible the engine is "flooded" due to the cold weather and slow cranking. I would heat the unit with a propane or diesel fired heater positioned so the engine area gets the most heat. Another trick is to heat the intake air with a heat gun directly in the intake when you crank it over. The battery will need to be up so charge it or give it a good jump so it spins as it should. Some would suggest ether as a starting aid but I do not. Ether in the wrong hands has destroyed plenty of engines. I use power service diesel fuel treatment to prevent gelling and they make a formula for already gelled fuel I believe it is called 911. If it smokes pretty good you are likely getting close to it firing up and running.
definitely could be flooded. could have flooded it again as it was trying to start. how do you prevent that, as there is no gas pedal to put to the floor, like we used to do. when you say heat the "unit" , you mean trying to put a heater under it to try and heat up the whole thing? I will try to find some 911 tomorrow and see if that helps.
 
definitely could be flooded. could have flooded it again as it was trying to start. how do you prevent that, as there is no gas pedal to put to the floor, like we used to do. when you say heat the "unit" , you mean trying to put a heater under it to try and heat up the whole thing? I will try to find some 911 tomorrow and see if that helps.
Yes I meant to heat the entire unit. You can disconnect the fuel solinoid to stop the fuel while you crank the unit but normally a unit that is flooded will clear itself. Is there a chance the fuel in the unit is contaminated with water and you are pumping water instead of fuel.
 
Yes I meant to heat the entire unit. You can disconnect the fuel solinoid to stop the fuel while you crank the unit but normally a unit that is flooded will clear itself. Is there a chance the fuel in the unit is contaminated with water and you are pumping water instead of fuel.
I went to town, got some diesel additive (fight the gel). It finally warmed up a bit today, so I got it started. Then after I got the cab up, I find a cord for a headbolt heater. That should solve this coldblooded problem. Then I run it and find another problem. Damn --- new thread. Tho' I still haven't figured out the cab down quandry. If it doesn't start, you can't raise the loader, can't open the cab, can't work on it. Must be a work-around, here.
 
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