seeping axle seal on 440

[z4lunch]

Steve here... Any one have any experience changing an axle seal on an older 440 Mustang. My right rear needs replacing. I can't find a service manual anywhere. From the looks of the pic in my parts book it doesn't look that bad. Any thoughts Thanks Steve

 

[73Eldo]

Looks to like very few OMC things had service manuals. For your machine (and mine) there is just the PM and OM. Some machines including yours had a hydraulic service manual. Stuff like the axle seals is included in the operators manual, or at least is in my 310 which looks like it could be similar vintage to yours. The 440 manuals are listed in all the usual places like ebay. Check with a mustang dealer, I just got genuine NOS factory manuals for mine for $15 each. Looking at the seal section in mine I dont see anything in the procedure that does not seem logical or different from what I have read about most of the older bobcats. If yours is the same as mine it does not look too bad. Mine the floor comes out with a million bolts then you are in the tank. It does note that it make take a press to get the shaft started out of the bearing. Its not clear if the shaft will slide out of the machine and then you have to press the bearings off or if you have to press it out of the machine.

 

[z4lunch]

Looks to like very few OMC things had service manuals. For your machine (and mine) there is just the PM and OM. Some machines including yours had a hydraulic service manual. Stuff like the axle seals is included in the operators manual, or at least is in my 310 which looks like it could be similar vintage to yours. The 440 manuals are listed in all the usual places like ebay. Check with a mustang dealer, I just got genuine NOS factory manuals for mine for $15 each. Looking at the seal section in mine I dont see anything in the procedure that does not seem logical or different from what I have read about most of the older bobcats. If yours is the same as mine it does not look too bad. Mine the floor comes out with a million bolts then you are in the tank. It does note that it make take a press to get the shaft started out of the bearing. Its not clear if the shaft will slide out of the machine and then you have to press the bearings off or if you have to press it out of the machine.

I will try to post a link of the picture of the axle unit in my parts book when I get home. It didn't look like anything was pressed on... Not sure tho Steve

 

[z4lunch]

I will try to post a link of the picture of the axle unit in my parts book when I get home. It didn't look like anything was pressed on... Not sure tho Steve

Steve here... Here is a pic out of the parts book... Does it look like it will come apart without pressing anything Steve http://www.flickr.com/photos/24861989@N02/2654358530/

 

[z4lunch]

Steve here... Here is a pic out of the parts book... Does it look like it will come apart without pressing anything Steve http://www.flickr.com/photos/24861989@N02/2654358530/

Here is a better pic... This will be painful for slo computer and or dial up Steve http://www.flickr.com/photos/24861989@N02/2657523860/

 

[73Eldo]

Here is a better pic... This will be painful for slo computer and or dial up Steve http://www.flickr.com/photos/24861989@N02/2657523860/

Looks about the same as my book other than the housings are part of the tank on my machine. It just says you may need a press to start bearing removal. Not sure if thats to get the shafts out of the housing or just to get the last bearing off the shaft. Either way on your machine if you remove the whole housing you could always take it to a shop and have them press it apart.

 

[z4lunch]

Looks about the same as my book other than the housings are part of the tank on my machine. It just says you may need a press to start bearing removal. Not sure if thats to get the shafts out of the housing or just to get the last bearing off the shaft. Either way on your machine if you remove the whole housing you could always take it to a shop and have them press it apart.

Steve here...Put the loader up on blocks Wednesday night, and started slowly taking her apart... I was able to get the axle shaft assembly out of the unit, yesterday. There is an access plate up inside the chassis next the engine... nut, washer and cotter pin on the end of the shaft in this opening. I took the nut and washer off. I then took the nuts off the bearing hub on the outside of the chassis. I probably spent close to an hour with a thin putty knife gently tapping and sliding between the chassis and housing to break loose the gasket and sealer. Once I had that loose. the whole assembly slid out of the chassis, and the drive gear set down in the tank, only dropped down a 1/4" to a 1/2" or so if that much I then had to press the shaft off of the bearings, and out of the hub. The outside bearing and seal was easily pressed out of the hub, and I found out the old seal was put in BACKWARDS!!! I was fortunate to have Matt at Golden Eagle equipment drop ship the gasket and seal from the Factory distribution center Thursday...showed up Friday afternoon!!! UPS ground...only one day from northern Illinois to WI Finished it up this afternoon, hopefully no more leaking ... Steve