i have posted this in the general repair thread but i thought i should post it on here instead. my problem is that i have a code on for the fuel shutoff solenoid. the skidsteer starts and then dies within 2-3 seconds. the code is 14-02. i have found the solenoid but is there any testing i can do before i replace the part. any help is greatly appreciated. thanks
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Ok, the problem. This is an easy test actually. You have three wires, white, black and red. Black is ground, the other two are pull and hold, i'n not 100% sure on this, but i think white is pull, red is hold. To test, ground the black wire, touck the red wire to the +ve terminal, if it does not snap back try the white. If you hear it snap and pull the lever back, this will tell you which wire is for the pull coil and the other is the hold.
Now, if you put power in the hold coul and touch the pull coil wire to the +ve terminal, touch it then let it go, the solenoid should be holding the lever in place, when you let go of the hold wire, it should snap back to the off position.
Does any of that make sense?
Just never hold the pull wire on the battery though, this coil is designed to be powered for only a few seconds, too long and it will burn out, the hold coil is designed to run all day.
Ok, the problem. This is an easy test actually. You have three wires, white, black and red. Black is ground, the other two are pull and hold, i'n not 100% sure on this, but i think white is pull, red is hold. To test, ground the black wire, touck the red wire to the +ve terminal, if it does not snap back try the white. If you hear it snap and pull the lever back, this will tell you which wire is for the pull coil and the other is the hold.
Now, if you put power in the hold coul and touch the pull coil wire to the +ve terminal, touch it then let it go, the solenoid should be holding the lever in place, when you let go of the hold wire, it should snap back to the off position.
Does any of that make sense?
Just never hold the pull wire on the battery though, this coil is designed to be powered for only a few seconds, too long and it will burn out, the hold coil is designed to run all day.
sorry for the double post. thanks for the input. can you tell me where the solenoid is. i think im looking at the wrong thing. it does have 3 wire but are different colors. the solenoid im looking at is on the injection pump. if that is the solenoid, i will try and test it. once again, thanks on the input.
Sounds like he has the newer style engine with the solinoid bolted in with allen screws , if so sometimes it is as simple as cleaning up the ground terminal , housing and the bolt , an easy test on those is to remove it from the engine , either use vise grips to clamp it to a ground or a cable with two clips to ground it , start the engine and it will run with the solinoid out the motor , you will have to kill it with a finger or a screw driver( if your scarey ) down the hole it came out of to push the linkage till it kills , when the ignition is turned on it should pull the plunger in , once it is running it should hold it in , if you have a test light hooked to the hold wire and it has power and it lets go then the solinoid is bad , if the voltage goes away you have another problem , more than not the solinoid is bad
i pulled out the solenoid and bench tested it with a power probe. the plunger goes in and out rapidly like a sawzall. it doesnt just stay in or out. i think i have a bad solenoid. i did try to start it with the solenoid out but i did not ground the wire and solenoid. i will try it in the morning. anything i can do to get it going for right now until i can get one for it, other than just running it with the hole wide open and having to shut it off by sticking my finger in to kill it.
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i grounded the unit and applied power to only one of the wires and the plunger moves in and out rapidly. the other one doesnt do anything. is this the proper way of testing or not. if not, please let me know and the way i can do to bench test this solenoid.
As you said one makes the plunger move in and out fast, this is your pull coil. The other is your hold coil. The idea is to apply power to the hold coil then touch the pull coil wire to the battery see if the plunger goes back and stays there. This is when the hold coil is holding th plunger in place. Does it do this if you hold power on the hold coil after the plunger is retracted?
I retested the unit this morning again and it was working, i cleaned up the grounds and reinstall the solenoid. the skidsteer fired right back up. whew. that solenoid sell for 282.32 at the local bobcat dealer. i also cleaned the plunger too and the skidsteer is working great again. i highly recommend one of these skidsteers to anyone looking for a great skidsteer. i love the heat and ac on these. anyone interested in this unit, it is for sale after i get done with my garage. i probably wont be needing it anymore since i dont do much work with it anymore. thanks for everyone who helped me out.
your was helpful to me as well, I am having problems with a park brake fuse issue, may be the solenoid, will do this test right now.
