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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jyuma1" data-source="post: 124647" data-attributes="member: 22244">Years ago, I had a neighbor get really pissed at me when he couldn't get his car up the hill (maybe 8 degree incline) in front of my house.  He knew, as all my neighbors knew, that I had a skid steer and had just seen me plow my 200' footlong driveway with ease only minutes before.  He asked me if I could give him a push up the hill with my loader and when I told him his car had better traction going up that hill (hard packed snow) then my skid steer did, he got really pissed thinking I just didn't want to help him. It didn't matter how much weight I put in the bucket; my loader would simply spin its tires on hard packed snow.Use of chains should always be considered for plowing snow sitting on top of ice, or even just hard packed snow.  It would only help.</blockquote>