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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HanSolo" data-source="post: 65254" data-attributes="member: 7905"><p>Exactly what I learned to operate in the 70s. The clutches are different than hydrostatic for sure. You can "coast" downhill and exceed safe operating speed quite easily! Also, I think they're more likely to tip forward with a load as your traveling and trying to slow down. I clearly remember being thrown from the operator seat as I was approaching a dump truck with a bucket full of broken asphalt. I was lifting the arms and braking (probably traveling too fast). I landed between the raised bucket and the front chassis. Scared the crap out of me and I was lucky the machine was stopped by the side of the dump truck or it would have run me over! I also remember chunks of material falling out of the bucket on those machines if you didn't level the bucket when lifting. No ROPS so that stuff would land on the plate over the peddles or in your lap. Be careful in 600 series. Or any skid loader for that matter...</p></blockquote><p></p>