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Message: <blockquote data-quote="soutthpaw" data-source="post: 29276" data-attributes="member: 2815">Gopaldescribing what you are doing with the machine, I agree if you are buying new go with the long wheelbase machine.   Also I have rear stabilizers on my machine with the 709 hoe,  they do add about 250 lbs   to the far rear of the machine and I can back up onto my tilt trailer with the hoe without tipping forward.  you can also add axle weights which are about 75lbs a side.  I have them on the front axle to balance out the effect of the rear stabilizers when not using the hoe.   I could add them on the rear axle for more tip resistance and as they are on the axle, Pivot point they don't affect the center of gravity of the machine when not connected to the hoe but would add more weight to the rear end with the hoe connected.  with the side shift hoe, if you shift it to one side and fold it up against the machine you should be able to back up without tipping much...     not sure what type of soil you have there but if its real hard, the stabilizers on the rear will give you a huge amount of down force to dig compared to using only the front stabilizers...  Have u considered a tree spade for what you are planning to use the machine for????</blockquote>