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<blockquote data-quote="RJSStamps" data-source="post: 54439" data-attributes="member: 7242"><p>DOT isn't too bright either and allowing straps is one of those dim bulbs! I have seen a 6600lb chain survive in tact where a 10,000 lb strap didn't. A trucker had his load of pipe, about 4,200lbs held with alternating chains and straps. The chains stayed together on the truck, not one strap held. Also your machine, in a crash at 35mph is going to accellerate quickly and it's going to act as if it is double the weight. The straps allow stretching, giving the machine more chance to move. When you hit bumps straps stretch, they loosen when they stretch! The looser they are when you hit something the more the machines going to move and the more likely the strap will fail.</p><p> I saw an excavator that was being pulled by a dually and the driver fell asleep. He hit a highway overpass. It had 5 chains, one across the bucket and one to each corner of the machine. The guy lived and a DOT inspector said if he didn't have it chained the way he did the excavator would have killed him. As it was the excavator moved enough to hit the tailgate but it didn't keep going as it could have with straps or fewer chains. They figured he was doing 45 to 50 when he contacted the bridge pillar. There is a reason they say to use a specific number of chains.</p><p> One racing organization will not allow it's members to use straps to tie down their race cars even in enclosed trailers, doesn't matter what the straps are made of or rated at, straps stretch and FAIL! </p><p>BTW, this is one reason my old machines getting updated with more chain attachment locations. I use chain rated at 12,000 pounds for my 5700lb machine but with 5 chains it's plenty safe. This is an 85 and it has, basically three tiedown points. Two in the rear and one hook on the bucket. Not sure yet how I will do the two additional front locations, thats one thing I am working on while I am repowering the thing. If I really wanted to deal with I could find a way to utilized a 30,000lb dozer chain I have here but it's too heavy to mess with!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RJSStamps, post: 54439, member: 7242"] DOT isn't too bright either and allowing straps is one of those dim bulbs! I have seen a 6600lb chain survive in tact where a 10,000 lb strap didn't. A trucker had his load of pipe, about 4,200lbs held with alternating chains and straps. The chains stayed together on the truck, not one strap held. Also your machine, in a crash at 35mph is going to accellerate quickly and it's going to act as if it is double the weight. The straps allow stretching, giving the machine more chance to move. When you hit bumps straps stretch, they loosen when they stretch! The looser they are when you hit something the more the machines going to move and the more likely the strap will fail. I saw an excavator that was being pulled by a dually and the driver fell asleep. He hit a highway overpass. It had 5 chains, one across the bucket and one to each corner of the machine. The guy lived and a DOT inspector said if he didn't have it chained the way he did the excavator would have killed him. As it was the excavator moved enough to hit the tailgate but it didn't keep going as it could have with straps or fewer chains. They figured he was doing 45 to 50 when he contacted the bridge pillar. There is a reason they say to use a specific number of chains. One racing organization will not allow it's members to use straps to tie down their race cars even in enclosed trailers, doesn't matter what the straps are made of or rated at, straps stretch and FAIL! BTW, this is one reason my old machines getting updated with more chain attachment locations. I use chain rated at 12,000 pounds for my 5700lb machine but with 5 chains it's plenty safe. This is an 85 and it has, basically three tiedown points. Two in the rear and one hook on the bucket. Not sure yet how I will do the two additional front locations, thats one thing I am working on while I am repowering the thing. If I really wanted to deal with I could find a way to utilized a 30,000lb dozer chain I have here but it's too heavy to mess with! [/QUOTE]
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