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<blockquote data-quote="Ford Fanatic" data-source="post: 132520" data-attributes="member: 24422"><p>WOW thanks for all the input guys. I've been on a couple other issues lately, and then with the snow we got around here, I've just been busy and life happens. However, lots of questions to answer and things to look into. </p><p></p><p>[USER=3333]@spitzair[/USER]- That is some good information about the mechanical advance. Thank you for that. I know it exists, and I can feel the "spring back" when I hold the gear part still while my neighbor slightly twists the rotor. It is definitely there and it ain't stuck or anything. Now whether its working or not might be a different story. However it does seem to advance a few degrees between 600-1200 rpm. So maybe that is working, and the intake isn't building enough vacuum to advance the timing more? I'll have to get it set to 0 degrees at 500rpm with everything plugged off and go from there. I must have missed that page in the specs section of my book. It's definitely not advancing 11 extra degrees by 1200 rpm, but I don't have it set at 0 at 500 rpm either. I'm thinking I ought to go after DFB's thoughts first though. Cause if it ain't making decent vacuum for whatever reason, then I don't guess that there's gonna be much vacuum advance happening anyway. </p><p></p><p> DFB- I will definitely be hooking up a vacuum gauge to the intake and let you know what I see, as I'm not totally sure what readings I'm looking for at "x" rpms. As for the ignition timing, yes it's correct. 1-2-4-3. I even doublechecked against the valve movements because that's the first time that I saw anything other than 1-3-4-2 on an inline 4. its always something lol</p><p>As for the pertronix distributor and a rev limiter function, that isn't ringing any bells. And I ain't gonna bs you, I had no idea that distributors had anything to do with limiting how much an engine can rev. I thought that was mainly the governors job, as well as maintaining RPM under load of course. Unless they can begin to retard the timing when rpm gets too high, and that's how they do it? Just guessing. I do have a timing light with a digital readout so I can see RPM's, and timing advance. I have a vacuum gauge somewhere too, but I gotta find it or borrow one for this.</p><p></p><p>@ Laurencen- I was honestly wondering the same thing! It acts almost as if it needs more air, not more fuel. cause it does burn a little richer than I think it should be. But there is still the timing issue ^^ that I need to address first. The throat in the carb is much smaller that the intake hole where the carb mounts, but then again, when I bought the rebuild kit for the carb, I bought it for a ford 1.6 Industrial 2274E, and all the gaskets, needles, etc were an exact fit for the zenith carb that was on there. Maybe my zenith carb is for a 1.1L ford motor, and I just dumbed into buying the kit for for a 1.1L carb as well? I mean, I was going off of the pictures of the internals online since I didn't have carb numbers off the original to reference off of. It was really hard to find anyway. But I'll be taking the carb off again and scouring it for numbers to confirm that it is/isn't correct. </p><p></p><p>Thanks again for all the input from everybody. I really appreciate it. I will get back into the 2274E engine very soon, probably by Thursday I'll have my shop emptied out again and be all caught up with other maintenance issues that I ran into. I'll get back soon. </p><p></p><p>FF</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ford Fanatic, post: 132520, member: 24422"] WOW thanks for all the input guys. I've been on a couple other issues lately, and then with the snow we got around here, I've just been busy and life happens. However, lots of questions to answer and things to look into. [USER=3333]@spitzair[/USER]- That is some good information about the mechanical advance. Thank you for that. I know it exists, and I can feel the "spring back" when I hold the gear part still while my neighbor slightly twists the rotor. It is definitely there and it ain't stuck or anything. Now whether its working or not might be a different story. However it does seem to advance a few degrees between 600-1200 rpm. So maybe that is working, and the intake isn't building enough vacuum to advance the timing more? I'll have to get it set to 0 degrees at 500rpm with everything plugged off and go from there. I must have missed that page in the specs section of my book. It's definitely not advancing 11 extra degrees by 1200 rpm, but I don't have it set at 0 at 500 rpm either. I'm thinking I ought to go after DFB's thoughts first though. Cause if it ain't making decent vacuum for whatever reason, then I don't guess that there's gonna be much vacuum advance happening anyway. DFB- I will definitely be hooking up a vacuum gauge to the intake and let you know what I see, as I'm not totally sure what readings I'm looking for at "x" rpms. As for the ignition timing, yes it's correct. 1-2-4-3. I even doublechecked against the valve movements because that's the first time that I saw anything other than 1-3-4-2 on an inline 4. its always something lol As for the pertronix distributor and a rev limiter function, that isn't ringing any bells. And I ain't gonna bs you, I had no idea that distributors had anything to do with limiting how much an engine can rev. I thought that was mainly the governors job, as well as maintaining RPM under load of course. Unless they can begin to retard the timing when rpm gets too high, and that's how they do it? Just guessing. I do have a timing light with a digital readout so I can see RPM's, and timing advance. I have a vacuum gauge somewhere too, but I gotta find it or borrow one for this. @ Laurencen- I was honestly wondering the same thing! It acts almost as if it needs more air, not more fuel. cause it does burn a little richer than I think it should be. But there is still the timing issue ^^ that I need to address first. The throat in the carb is much smaller that the intake hole where the carb mounts, but then again, when I bought the rebuild kit for the carb, I bought it for a ford 1.6 Industrial 2274E, and all the gaskets, needles, etc were an exact fit for the zenith carb that was on there. Maybe my zenith carb is for a 1.1L ford motor, and I just dumbed into buying the kit for for a 1.1L carb as well? I mean, I was going off of the pictures of the internals online since I didn't have carb numbers off the original to reference off of. It was really hard to find anyway. But I'll be taking the carb off again and scouring it for numbers to confirm that it is/isn't correct. Thanks again for all the input from everybody. I really appreciate it. I will get back into the 2274E engine very soon, probably by Thursday I'll have my shop emptied out again and be all caught up with other maintenance issues that I ran into. I'll get back soon. FF [/QUOTE]
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