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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cm2ncfsu2" data-source="post: 120652" data-attributes="member: 5185">The oldest style (where the wedges go out horizontally and are both operated by one central lever) went on the 371, 313 (basically a diesel 371), 440, 443 and the 453.The 463 and S70 use plate that is similar to the modern universal plate, but narrower. It is about 35" wide vs roughly 45" on the standard universal plate. However, the wedge/pin spacing is the same on the 463/S70 as the standard universal plate.With a 463/S70 you can pick up and set the wedges on any universal attachment. I use a 48" smooth bucket from a 553 (with the universal plate size) as my snow bucket. You have to center the 463 on the wider plate but it works fine. I have a 463 and converted a small backhoe attachment using the 45" universal plate so that it can be used on a larger machine if need be. I move several full size attachments around with it.Weight can obviously get to be a problem. It didn't like trying to pick up large piles of pine needles with a 66" grapple bucket I borrowed from a neighbor.To reiterate, the 371-453 plate is a different animal since the wedges go out sideways whereas everything else has the wedges going out the bottom.Dingo is another specific design.</blockquote>