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Message: <blockquote data-quote="skidsteer.ca" data-source="post: 20546" data-attributes="member: 307">Our float truck has a 400 watt oil pan heater for  @ 35 litres of oil. Some of the folks using Espar fuel fired equipment heaters have put a coolant coil in the hyd tank or run the exhaust from the heater up to the fuel tank.  Some of these limber and feller buchers would have a barrel or more of oil.  If you plan to startit cold often then thinner oil would be  better.  Sol long as the pumps are not skipping because they can't draw oil I always considered it ok to begin to work the functions with little or no load to begin to warm thngs up.I try to keeps my machines inside if I'm using them but I have never had any trouble just starting them and letting the machine run at a low idle for 5 minutes b4 putting it to work as far as the hydraulics go. My 853 seemed to be the most sensitive and sometimes the warning light would come on at -20 c or colder. In a minute or so it would go out but would return if you increased the rpm. After a few minutes you could throttle it up partial and begin to use it slowly inceasing the rpm as it warmed over the first few minutes and keep the trans light off.Ken</blockquote>