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On to the next phase, dual tilt cylinders I bought these new surplus and now have to make them right.
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Modifying cylinders is somple compaired to the construction you have already done. I assume they need shortening?
 
Modifying cylinders is somple compaired to the construction you have already done. I assume they need shortening?
Different ends & shortening, I have to build a cylinder for the bobtach & loader arms to modify.
 
Different ends & shortening, I have to build a cylinder for the bobtach & loader arms to modify.
I finished cutting them down and machining new ends I will weld tomorrow. This is how I do it to make sure there perpendicular.
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I finished cutting them down and machining new ends I will weld tomorrow. This is how I do it to make sure there perpendicular.
Looking good. Did you machine the bosses to accept bushings? or do you figure they will out last you with the small amount they will wear with your use?
 
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All welded next to sand blast the out side,powder coat, and press in the bushings.
What sort of shelding gas do you ise on your MIG for welding the rod ends? I always found mine wouldn't give me quite enough penetration. I Grind the rod to a chisel point and build it up with my stick welder with good rods to cut nice and deep.
My MIG gas is argoshield light, for up to 5mm i think it states. For 99% of the work i do, it is fine, but somethings i just don't trust it on.
 
What sort of shelding gas do you ise on your MIG for welding the rod ends? I always found mine wouldn't give me quite enough penetration. I Grind the rod to a chisel point and build it up with my stick welder with good rods to cut nice and deep.
My MIG gas is argoshield light, for up to 5mm i think it states. For 99% of the work i do, it is fine, but somethings i just don't trust it on.
All these welds on the cylinder and rod ends are tig except the butt end (3.25 tube) is mig. I use 75/25 gas If you want better penetration go straight co2, with tig I can always put a pass of 7018 stick over the tig using the tig as a root pass. I don't see a need on these cylinders.One other thing that helps is the rod is pressed into the the end before welding.Plus keeping the ends perpendicular it is less likely to brake an end off.
 
All these welds on the cylinder and rod ends are tig except the butt end (3.25 tube) is mig. I use 75/25 gas If you want better penetration go straight co2, with tig I can always put a pass of 7018 stick over the tig using the tig as a root pass. I don't see a need on these cylinders.One other thing that helps is the rod is pressed into the the end before welding.Plus keeping the ends perpendicular it is less likely to brake an end off.
Nice. With TIG you can get it hotter and control what melts and when. That's why i don't do them with a MIG, it just lays down the metal, if the base metal is hot enough or not.
That is the hardest part, getting it dead centre. I have seen others centre drill the rod and a matching hole in the eye. Install a small pin and when pushed down, they are in the right place, then weld.
You still need to work out the centre of the eye to drill the hole though.....
 

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