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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jklingel" data-source="post: 12138" data-attributes="member: 1409"><p>Ken, et al: I have the chains as tight as I can get them, ( but maybe still not tight enough) and wiggle and strain and fiddle as much as I can to get the chain over the treads, etc. I added the bungies only because my neighbor did and he said it helps "keep them from flopping around". Frankly, I don't see how they do much, and certainly they don't do stink for any strength, but I took his word temporarily. The chains are only about 1/4", maybe 5/16"; they sure are not 3/8"! I will check into those tighteners mentioned above. My new machine is coming w/ JD tire chains, so I hope they are more skookum than what I have; maybe those tighteners will help, too. My front tires do well, but those back chains have been left off because they just brake anyway. Thanks all for the info.</p></blockquote><p></p>