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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Robanybody" data-source="post: 137506" data-attributes="member: 24688">Well, you probably don't want to be doing that anyway. It just isn't safe. If the unit stalls or runs out of fuel. I think they're required to have a manual lowering valve. On my Bobcats, they've always been next to the seat. Just twist and pull and the arms come down. If you're talking about lifting something and need to deal with a sling or something, an assisting pair of hands is best.I've never seen one lower its arms by itself, but I have heard of fatalities caused that way. The lift cylinders don't have holding valves, so if the barrel end hose leaks or bursts, the piston can retract freely. Since they're both on the same valve they will lower together.</blockquote>