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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jerry" data-source="post: 86415" data-attributes="member: 931"><p>As far as forum complaints there is a link at the top where you can donate to the update for the forum. Any amount will help I'm sure and is offset by any advice you will get here on problems. If the john deere is vertical lift like the new Holland check behind the fenders where there are convoluted steel lines for the lift cylinders. Had one split on my new Holland and the oil cam out down below.</p></blockquote><p></p>