863 running temperature

[rumrunner]

I am going to use my 863 this winter. Temperatures down to -15C. In the summer the engine runs very cool. I am thinking with winter use it will be even cooler. Is there a way to block the oil cooler or reduce the airflow over the cooler to increase engine temperature? Do you think placing some heavy canvas over the cooling rads would reduce the air flow? Also do I need a heat pad on the hydraulic tank to warm the oil prior to start. I have a oil pan heater and I bought a magnetic heater to supplement the oil pan heater. Any other hints for winter operation? I will not be putting the unit in a warm garage overnight.

 

[Tazza]

I'm wondering what setup it has for a thermostat, if its bad, it would account for the lower running temperatures. I would seriously not advise blocking it. You don't want to acciedently cook the engine.

 

[rumrunner]

I'm wondering what setup it has for a thermostat, if its bad, it would account for the lower running temperatures. I would seriously not advise blocking it. You don't want to acciedently cook the engine.

I am not worried about cooking it..more interested in keeping the fluids warmer. Also hoping it will provide more heat to the cab.

 

[mrfixitpaul]

I am not worried about cooking it..more interested in keeping the fluids warmer. Also hoping it will provide more heat to the cab.

The deutz usually puts out plenty of heat even on the coldest days. If I remember correctly there is a 'thermostat' behind one of the plugs near where the heater hoses connect to the engine. A spring and poppet type, maybe somebody removed it or the spring has gotten weak. As for the hydraulics, they produce plenty of heat when working the machine, regardless of air temp.

 

[rumrunner]

The deutz usually puts out plenty of heat even on the coldest days. If I remember correctly there is a 'thermostat' behind one of the plugs near where the heater hoses connect to the engine. A spring and poppet type, maybe somebody removed it or the spring has gotten weak. As for the hydraulics, they produce plenty of heat when working the machine, regardless of air temp.

Thanks guys.. I guess we will see how it works out... Does anyone have any idea what might be a 'cut-off" temperature?

 

[siduramaxde]

Thanks guys.. I guess we will see how it works out... Does anyone have any idea what might be a 'cut-off" temperature?

I have a T200 with the same motor as your 863 and I use mine to plow snow. Sometimes I wonder if it's going to start but it always does. Sometimes I get the low hydraulic pressure warning but it goes off when the fluid warms up. My machine will roast me out of the cab even on the coldest and windy days. I could plow in shorts and a t-shirt.

 

[rumrunner]

I have a T200 with the same motor as your 863 and I use mine to plow snow. Sometimes I wonder if it's going to start but it always does. Sometimes I get the low hydraulic pressure warning but it goes off when the fluid warms up. My machine will roast me out of the cab even on the coldest and windy days. I could plow in shorts and a t-shirt.

I am thinking I might have a sticky thermo-stat. Sometimes the heater puts out heat like crazy and other times it is cool air.

 

[mrfixitpaul]

I am thinking I might have a sticky thermo-stat. Sometimes the heater puts out heat like crazy and other times it is cool air.

Maybe the heater valve is sticking of a line is kinked.

 

[skidsteer.ca]

Maybe the heater valve is sticking of a line is kinked.

As for the hyd oil it will be fine just don't run really thick oil like 15/40. I run 10/30 here year round. On the -20 days just let it run at low rm for 5 mins to warm the oil. Then drive off at a slow speed and don't push nothing for the 1st minute until the warm oil has circulated through the wheel motors and warmed them up some. If you can park indoors it is better for the hydraulics but then you have to worry about condensation in the fuel.
I'd check to see if Deutz has a oil thermostat someplace and find out what they recomend for oil. My guess would be 0-40 or 5-40 would be best, but consult them.
Ken

 

[rumrunner]

As for the hyd oil it will be fine just don't run really thick oil like 15/40. I run 10/30 here year round. On the -20 days just let it run at low rm for 5 mins to warm the oil. Then drive off at a slow speed and don't push nothing for the 1st minute until the warm oil has circulated through the wheel motors and warmed them up some. If you can park indoors it is better for the hydraulics but then you have to worry about condensation in the fuel.
I'd check to see if Deutz has a oil thermostat someplace and find out what they recomend for oil. My guess would be 0-40 or 5-40 would be best, but consult them.
Ken

I will have to change the hyd oil. I think I am running the thicker stuff right now. Some great suggestions guys..thank you all very much.