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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RobPg1967" data-source="post: 9242" data-attributes="member: 224"><p>Ran jumper wires as TAZZ suggested and by the way , my service manual says exact same thing. Got nothing at all . Fuses ok Battery ok Battery grounds ok Disconnected the power cables from the starter but kept them hooked together - still no lights- this made me think it was a ground or solenoid problem. Replaced both round solenoids and still nothing - no crank no lights NADA. I used the grinder and clean off the mounting point where the "L" shaped bracket that holds the 2 solenoids attaches to the inner engine compartment wall. Evidently that was the problem... or at least I think this was the problem. I was testing - tugging - and jumping wires all over the place and all at once I had juice. By the way - Bobcat dealer sells these solenoids at $ 30 each The nearby auto parts guy told me he could get the same for $ 15 each but he had to order tham . Also - they looked plastic and Im not sure if they would have worked. This auto parts guy also told me he could get the glow plugs too- we'll see.</p></blockquote><p></p>