Thanks to both of you for your input,really appreciate the come back you guys give... I have to do a couple days out of town,but will try both your places as soon as I get back...The reason I bought this Bobcat is to move logs and I need the aux hyd to use the grapple...There's an answer to this problem.....Just finding it is a little frustrating....I must say I have gained a lot of knowledge from you two guys....Very please with this Forum and people on it... Thanks TheoBad right handle.