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Message: <blockquote data-quote="rodbuilder" data-source="post: 114785" data-attributes="member: 11975"><p>Neither one!!! Buy an ASV, or Terex (same thing!!!). None of the Bobcat New Holland, Takeuchi or others have a suspension sustem on the bogeys and they ride like rocks! If you're going to make a track loader shouldn't it be able to put the power to the ground? Go to YouTube and do a search for ASV versus Bobcat and watch the videos! There's a T190 bobcat and an ASV RC50 on there going up a muddy/snowy hill and the ASV DESTROYS that suspension-less bobcat!!! Do I like Bobcats? yeah, because i make a lot of money, buying and selling them, but they are FAR from being the best skid loader. Hands-down, it'a New Holland for wheels loaders and ASV/Terex for the track loaders. ike it or not - read the specs (ritchispecs.com) and you will see that Caterpillar has the worst horsepower-to-lift ratio in the industry!!! But they DO share the ASV suspension system!!!</p></blockquote><p></p>