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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Topcat1952" data-source="post: 131567" data-attributes="member: 23130">I am beginning to think you work for New Holland, Testing data, a magic word.... Once in my lifetime, it was a valuable asset to have Equipment shop manuals.... I used often, today the manufacturer has seen a profit holding most information for two reasons... 1 Making most things not repairable and having to replace, 2 With the internet making scanning and reproducing S/manuals with limited importance.... Things have changed too much.... At my age, I could say a lot about that but mostly it's pretty simple... I once read a book on manufacturing, that pretty much says Idea, to selling idea, to start manufacturing, to selling " valuable product", to pricing, to cost cutting, to limiting ( or out souring), to selling total product is the last bit of value it had.... Thrown away because bigger and better just arrived....Now on the stake dinner, you bet, name state, and location and I will be more than pleased to send a gift card....  I like the testing part.... rog</blockquote>