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<blockquote data-quote="TexasTimbers" data-source="post: 23484" data-attributes="member: 1649"><p>I think when I made this post there was no Daewoo section I see now that there is. I hope the admin will move this to that section or maybe the skid steer section if tey are more appropriate. Anyway sorry to hear about your problems landscaper. I am not familiar with the Kia engine. I have the 50/42HP Yanmar diesel and it has taken relentless abuse logging. Keeps right on chugging. To give you an idea of how much abuse I have torn welds off and bent the whole front end of the loading arms and have had to reweld them back together several times. I have bent both cylinders 3 times and the left one again just recently and I mean catastrophic every time. This last time I had to have new barrels too. Fortunately I have a shop that rebuilds them very reasonbale $400 for the pair if they don't need new barrels. The engine has never given me a moments trouble though once or twice i thought it was, it was electrical trouble. I had been running hydraulic fluid that was so contaminated it looked like milk almost (didn't know it wasn't doing so with the knowledge) and i don't see how the machine just keeps going. I can sympathize with your plight but I hate to see you blaming Daewoo for not making good on a warranty that has been long out of force. If the Kia engines have had enough problems it usually takes a class action lawsuit to make the various manufacturers make any kind of restitution/recall/repair. That takes time and money the kind guys like us don't usually have. Your problem is not with the Daewoo skid steer but with the power plant in it. Daewoo did not know they were lemons (if they were) when they made the contract with Kia, and even if they did that would be next to impossible to prove. Any that went out during warranty I'm sure they replaced. Daewoo did not likely include any kind of "Lower Than 'Normal' Hours" clause which would bring you into coverage post-warranty; that would not benefit them. That's why manufacturers always put both a time and use limit "whichever come first" so they can use all those numbers and statics that they pay their number-crunchers to figure out. It's the same principle the insurance use to manage risk vs reward or Premiums vs Claims. The risk vs reward is always in the manufacturers favor when it comes to warranty issues and if it were not, we would not be able to buy skid steers made by private industry because they could not make a profit. In describing your dilemma with this frustrating issue, you made the statement ~ <em>"This is BULLS**T!" </em> but really, it's not. Allow me a minute to describe to you what *I* believe <strong>is</strong> <em>Bravo Sierra</em>, as we used to say in the USCG. The way this insane federal government is rushing us over the cliffs, we will buying machinery manufactured by state-owned industries here in the U.S.S.A. before long anyway and you'll have "cradle to grave" warranty coverage. But just like everything else a Marxist/Socialist society, insurance will be a thing of the past. Since you can't own anything any longer there is no need to insure it. Just be thankful you can make the decision not to buy a Daewoo this time because for now you still have some semblance of the freedom to choose and to own. Sorry for the rant. AFA gooing with a Cummins I have never owned one but my experience is they have a stellar reputation. I know they are the reason I run a Powerstroke Ford and not a Dodge with a Cummins. Those dam things are so loud you have to scream to have a conversation standing near the hood. Maybe that has changed I don't know but the dam things sound like a rock band compared to my old 99 F350 Powerstroke. In a skid steer maybe that won't matter. My sawmill is powered by a 42HP Turbo Diesel Kubota that I love as much as the Yanmar so look at all your options and do a bunch of research before you just pick one brand over another. Best of luck to you whatever you decide.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TexasTimbers, post: 23484, member: 1649"] I think when I made this post there was no Daewoo section I see now that there is. I hope the admin will move this to that section or maybe the skid steer section if tey are more appropriate. Anyway sorry to hear about your problems landscaper. I am not familiar with the Kia engine. I have the 50/42HP Yanmar diesel and it has taken relentless abuse logging. Keeps right on chugging. To give you an idea of how much abuse I have torn welds off and bent the whole front end of the loading arms and have had to reweld them back together several times. I have bent both cylinders 3 times and the left one again just recently and I mean catastrophic every time. This last time I had to have new barrels too. Fortunately I have a shop that rebuilds them very reasonbale $400 for the pair if they don't need new barrels. The engine has never given me a moments trouble though once or twice i thought it was, it was electrical trouble. I had been running hydraulic fluid that was so contaminated it looked like milk almost (didn't know it wasn't doing so with the knowledge) and i don't see how the machine just keeps going. I can sympathize with your plight but I hate to see you blaming Daewoo for not making good on a warranty that has been long out of force. If the Kia engines have had enough problems it usually takes a class action lawsuit to make the various manufacturers make any kind of restitution/recall/repair. That takes time and money the kind guys like us don't usually have. Your problem is not with the Daewoo skid steer but with the power plant in it. Daewoo did not know they were lemons (if they were) when they made the contract with Kia, and even if they did that would be next to impossible to prove. Any that went out during warranty I'm sure they replaced. Daewoo did not likely include any kind of "Lower Than 'Normal' Hours" clause which would bring you into coverage post-warranty; that would not benefit them. That's why manufacturers always put both a time and use limit "whichever come first" so they can use all those numbers and statics that they pay their number-crunchers to figure out. It's the same principle the insurance use to manage risk vs reward or Premiums vs Claims. The risk vs reward is always in the manufacturers favor when it comes to warranty issues and if it were not, we would not be able to buy skid steers made by private industry because they could not make a profit. In describing your dilemma with this frustrating issue, you made the statement ~ [i]"This is BULLS**T!" [/i] but really, it's not. Allow me a minute to describe to you what *I* believe [b]is[/b] [i]Bravo Sierra[/i], as we used to say in the USCG. The way this insane federal government is rushing us over the cliffs, we will buying machinery manufactured by state-owned industries here in the U.S.S.A. before long anyway and you'll have "cradle to grave" warranty coverage. But just like everything else a Marxist/Socialist society, insurance will be a thing of the past. Since you can't own anything any longer there is no need to insure it. Just be thankful you can make the decision not to buy a Daewoo this time because for now you still have some semblance of the freedom to choose and to own. Sorry for the rant. AFA gooing with a Cummins I have never owned one but my experience is they have a stellar reputation. I know they are the reason I run a Powerstroke Ford and not a Dodge with a Cummins. Those dam things are so loud you have to scream to have a conversation standing near the hood. Maybe that has changed I don't know but the dam things sound like a rock band compared to my old 99 F350 Powerstroke. In a skid steer maybe that won't matter. My sawmill is powered by a 42HP Turbo Diesel Kubota that I love as much as the Yanmar so look at all your options and do a bunch of research before you just pick one brand over another. Best of luck to you whatever you decide. [/QUOTE]
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