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<blockquote data-quote="skidsteer.ca" data-source="post: 3414" data-attributes="member: 307"><p>I sorry but I feel you guys are getting ahead of yourselfs with the control valve thing.</p><p>Tazza I would be vary interested inn reading the article you have though.</p><p>In my expierience I have seen re packing a piston on a hyd cylinder fix the dreaded creep more then once. With poly pack cylinder seals you can even have a creep that comes and goes thogh this is not nearly as common as a creep that is constant and noticably getting worse.</p><p>I'd be unhooking and capping the hoses to one cylinder, then the other. Lift the boom with just one cylinder conected to the system and see if you creep is still there. If it gone try switching cylinders, see if the other side creeps.</p><p> If it goes away with once of the cylinders disconnected then it is likely a piston seal. If you think this is the case remove the suspect cylinder. CAP (seal off) the port farthest away from the chrome shaft. Hook your air compressor to the port that world retract the ram, and put the air to it. If the cylinder is good the ram will re tract and stay retracted. If the piston seal is leaking it will retract , then begin to extend. This is a definite indication of a internal piston seal leaking.</p><p>If un hooking one cylinder then the other makes no difference then I would go after the control valve if I cannot find any lines or hoses leaking.</p><p>With the valve I'd start by unhooking the hoses to both cylinders and capping the hoses on one side.</p><p>I'd connect my trusty 3000 psi guages , one to each of the lines that was connected to the second cylinder. Start the engine and step on the lift pedal.. The guage on the lift side should come up to what ever your relieve valve pressure setting is. say 2500 psi, when you release the pedal it should stay there if there are no leaks or valve problems.</p><p>In my expierence with load checks, they don't creep when the valve spool (control pedal) is in the center (neutral) position. I have a problem with the one on the tilt circuit of my 553. It hold fine until I move the pedal slightly from center, then the bucket starts to slowly dump even though I'm pushing with my heel, (curl bucket) until I push the pedal enough that the hyd pump starts putting oil in the cylinder, then the bucket comes up. It stays put fine as long as I don't move the pedal slightly off center.</p><p>So do a little trouble shooting and start with whats easy, not with whats hard.</p><p>Of course oil leaks can cause the problems you mention , but I'm assuming your not having to add hyd oil and there is not a puddle under the loader.</p><p>Regards</p><p>Ken</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="skidsteer.ca, post: 3414, member: 307"] I sorry but I feel you guys are getting ahead of yourselfs with the control valve thing. Tazza I would be vary interested inn reading the article you have though. In my expierience I have seen re packing a piston on a hyd cylinder fix the dreaded creep more then once. With poly pack cylinder seals you can even have a creep that comes and goes thogh this is not nearly as common as a creep that is constant and noticably getting worse. I'd be unhooking and capping the hoses to one cylinder, then the other. Lift the boom with just one cylinder conected to the system and see if you creep is still there. If it gone try switching cylinders, see if the other side creeps. If it goes away with once of the cylinders disconnected then it is likely a piston seal. If you think this is the case remove the suspect cylinder. CAP (seal off) the port farthest away from the chrome shaft. Hook your air compressor to the port that world retract the ram, and put the air to it. If the cylinder is good the ram will re tract and stay retracted. If the piston seal is leaking it will retract , then begin to extend. This is a definite indication of a internal piston seal leaking. If un hooking one cylinder then the other makes no difference then I would go after the control valve if I cannot find any lines or hoses leaking. With the valve I'd start by unhooking the hoses to both cylinders and capping the hoses on one side. I'd connect my trusty 3000 psi guages , one to each of the lines that was connected to the second cylinder. Start the engine and step on the lift pedal.. The guage on the lift side should come up to what ever your relieve valve pressure setting is. say 2500 psi, when you release the pedal it should stay there if there are no leaks or valve problems. In my expierence with load checks, they don't creep when the valve spool (control pedal) is in the center (neutral) position. I have a problem with the one on the tilt circuit of my 553. It hold fine until I move the pedal slightly from center, then the bucket starts to slowly dump even though I'm pushing with my heel, (curl bucket) until I push the pedal enough that the hyd pump starts putting oil in the cylinder, then the bucket comes up. It stays put fine as long as I don't move the pedal slightly off center. So do a little trouble shooting and start with whats easy, not with whats hard. Of course oil leaks can cause the problems you mention , but I'm assuming your not having to add hyd oil and there is not a puddle under the loader. Regards Ken [/QUOTE]
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