1816 belt clutch alternative

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Gkiddy

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So, I just picked up an 1816 on the cheap and started tearing into it today. I got a lead on a different engine for it due to the original motor being locked up. I pulled off the old three channel pulley and seem to be missing the magnetic coil. The guy I bought it off of seemed sold on the idea of a manual tensioner system instead of the clutch. Can anyone please elaborate? From what I'm reading, the electric clutches are junk.? Thoughts?
 

lesgawlik

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There were three kinds of clutches put on these machines. There was a manual clutch, an electric clutch and a centrifugal clutch. I have had machines with the electric clutch and the centrifugal clutch. The electric clutch is still available, or at least was a year or two ago. The centrifugal clutch had a rebuild kit with the shoes, but those disappeared years ago. I bought the last centrifugal clutch from case several years ago. If you can find an old centrifugal clutch, a brake relining shop could make the shoes for you. I looked into that, and determined it was possible. I decided just to replace the clutch in the end. Case actually has some parts for those old machines available through suppliers. The mechanic I dealt with said he preferred the electric clutch to the other two, but I don't remember why. I know that if things are out of adjustment, engaging the electric clutch can be an experience. I really like the centrifugal clutch.
 
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Gkiddy

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There were three kinds of clutches put on these machines. There was a manual clutch, an electric clutch and a centrifugal clutch. I have had machines with the electric clutch and the centrifugal clutch. The electric clutch is still available, or at least was a year or two ago. The centrifugal clutch had a rebuild kit with the shoes, but those disappeared years ago. I bought the last centrifugal clutch from case several years ago. If you can find an old centrifugal clutch, a brake relining shop could make the shoes for you. I looked into that, and determined it was possible. I decided just to replace the clutch in the end. Case actually has some parts for those old machines available through suppliers. The mechanic I dealt with said he preferred the electric clutch to the other two, but I don't remember why. I know that if things are out of adjustment, engaging the electric clutch can be an experience. I really like the centrifugal clutch.
How bad of an idea would it be to get rid of the clutch all together and run a fixed pulley? It'll be stored inside a heated garage. To my knowledge, the clutch is only there to allow the motor to heat up before the load of the cold hydraulics is placed on it. Correct?
 

lesgawlik

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How bad of an idea would it be to get rid of the clutch all together and run a fixed pulley? It'll be stored inside a heated garage. To my knowledge, the clutch is only there to allow the motor to heat up before the load of the cold hydraulics is placed on it. Correct?
That's an interesting question. Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever seen the belts NOT turn. With an ordinary centrifugal clutch, like with a chain saw, at idle the drive belts or the chain are not going to move. I think my belts move all the time. I think you may need a clutch to allow the engine to start.
 

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