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lsu_tiger_fan_1975

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once again i find my self at the mercy of the smart guys of the bobcat world. I have just replaced the starter on my S220 and still i get nothing more than a click or two. Every now and then the starter sounds like its trying to turn the enging over. I have called the guys at Ingresol Rand for advice and have tryed everything that they have suggested. The access cover to the drive belt was taken off so we could see the flywheel/ starter connection and it is making a good connection but as soon as it hit the flywheel the starter stops engaging the wheel. Could this be a electrical or mechanical issue? We have also disconnected the hydrolic drive belt to ensure that there is not an excessive load and still come up short. Thanks once again.
 

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This is going to sound silly, but did you check the battery?
A dead, or low battery will sound like this, you will hear a click of the relay, but not enough power to spin the motor.
Can you hear it engage and try to spin as in a squeel from the starter?, if so there could be a problem with the engine, like hydraulic lock making it so you simply can't spin the motor over. If this is the case, remove the glow plugs and try cranking it over without them in there. If water (coolant) comes out, your in trouble but then you know whats wrong. I seriously doubt thats the problem, but it could explain the motor trying to spin but can't.
 

Eric

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This is going to sound silly, but did you check the battery?
A dead, or low battery will sound like this, you will hear a click of the relay, but not enough power to spin the motor.
Can you hear it engage and try to spin as in a squeel from the starter?, if so there could be a problem with the engine, like hydraulic lock making it so you simply can't spin the motor over. If this is the case, remove the glow plugs and try cranking it over without them in there. If water (coolant) comes out, your in trouble but then you know whats wrong. I seriously doubt thats the problem, but it could explain the motor trying to spin but can't.
Its probably a bad connection on the battery cables or a bad battery cable. Trust me, this one killed about 4 hours of work trying to figure this out on my 763. I thought it was the starter because the battery was testing at 13 to 14 volts but the machine would not start. The battery cables felt tight and where not loose. I tried swapping out the starter but had the same problem. So I spoke with a tech at the local dealer. He said its a bad cable or connection. So sure enough, I start trying to pull the cables off the battery and they are really stuck on there and access is tight. I finally get the positive cable off and it had been frozen on there from corrosion. The positive cable terminal was really corroded. I tried cleaning it but the corrosion ate away to much material to get a tight fit back on the battery post. So I bought a new cable and put some dielectric grease on the connecting parts to deter future corrosion. This fixed the problem.
Also, if the terminal doesn't look to corroded it may be bad in the actual cable material inside the plastic coating.
 

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Its probably a bad connection on the battery cables or a bad battery cable. Trust me, this one killed about 4 hours of work trying to figure this out on my 763. I thought it was the starter because the battery was testing at 13 to 14 volts but the machine would not start. The battery cables felt tight and where not loose. I tried swapping out the starter but had the same problem. So I spoke with a tech at the local dealer. He said its a bad cable or connection. So sure enough, I start trying to pull the cables off the battery and they are really stuck on there and access is tight. I finally get the positive cable off and it had been frozen on there from corrosion. The positive cable terminal was really corroded. I tried cleaning it but the corrosion ate away to much material to get a tight fit back on the battery post. So I bought a new cable and put some dielectric grease on the connecting parts to deter future corrosion. This fixed the problem.
Also, if the terminal doesn't look to corroded it may be bad in the actual cable material inside the plastic coating.
Take your booster cables and use them for battery cables ,just for testing purposes. Don't forget to look for any ground battery cables as well. If you have a volt meter hook it to ground and the main power terminal on the starter and see what you volt are when attempting to crank the engine. I'm just guessing but voltage should stay up in the 11 plus range.
Also you can turn the engine by hand? Its not seized.
Regards Ken
 
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