Fair price?

[500K_773]

I got a quote for a new machine and just wanted to see how it compared to other areas.
New S300 Skid Steer Loader $32,895
Gold Package $4,045
Alarm/Horn Pkg. for SJC $250
High Flow Aux. Hydraulics for SJC $1850
Selectable Joystick Control (SJC) $1,695
80" Low Profile Bucket $937
Bolt on Cutting Edge, 80" $225
Sub-Total $41,897
Dealer P.D.I. $200
Freight Charges $2,700
Bobcat Steel Surcharge $646
Discount Applied $3,352
Total $42,091
2-Speed option was not quoted at this time, but would add an additional $1,850
BTW: Cat quoted me $42,800 for a 268B skid steer with A/C, 2-speed, high flow, but no bucket for $42,800. So almost the exact same price for the S300. The 268B is only rated for 2,700#.

 

[500K_773]

BTW, the S250 would be about $1,800 less than the S300. All other options are the same.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

BTW, the S250 would be about $1,800 less than the S300. All other options are the same.

Price is about right. It seems you could probably negotiate a bit on the price, but for a base S300, you're looking at a fair price. I don't recall specifically whether you've demoed the Cat yet. I would suggest doing that as well, and pay attention to which machine seems louder, which one has better rear corner visibility, and which one seems more stable. A note about the S300: given that it has two counterweights as its only source of extra lifting capacity, do remember that you will have a bit of a harder time on slopes if you want to tackle them front-end first.

 

[bobbie-g]

Price is about right. It seems you could probably negotiate a bit on the price, but for a base S300, you're looking at a fair price. I don't recall specifically whether you've demoed the Cat yet. I would suggest doing that as well, and pay attention to which machine seems louder, which one has better rear corner visibility, and which one seems more stable. A note about the S300: given that it has two counterweights as its only source of extra lifting capacity, do remember that you will have a bit of a harder time on slopes if you want to tackle them front-end first.

I got a quote on an S130 last Thanksgiving day from White Star Machinery in Wichita KS, base unit price of $20,600. I believe the S130 is equivalent to the 753.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

I got a quote on an S130 last Thanksgiving day from White Star Machinery in Wichita KS, base unit price of $20,600. I believe the S130 is equivalent to the 753.

That's a little bit high for the S130, I think... it may be because the S130 has a 46 hp engine while the 753 had a 43.5 one. Ah well; options may have made the difference.

 

[864wood]

That's a little bit high for the S130, I think... it may be because the S130 has a 46 hp engine while the 753 had a 43.5 one. Ah well; options may have made the difference.

My S-300 Gold package was 38,500 with a smooth low profile bucket. I am in an open county in Maryland so I can buy from three different dealers with no problems. I just played them al against each other and got a good price. Good luck, and by the way I love this machine for what I am using it for but I am still looking forward to my track machine again. Why don't you just buy the T-300 given your climate and working conditions.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

My S-300 Gold package was 38,500 with a smooth low profile bucket. I am in an open county in Maryland so I can buy from three different dealers with no problems. I just played them al against each other and got a good price. Good luck, and by the way I love this machine for what I am using it for but I am still looking forward to my track machine again. Why don't you just buy the T-300 given your climate and working conditions.

I dunno -- if he does a good deal of plowing, the S300 would definitely be a better deal. Given most of his working conditions, though, I would think that the S300 is still the better buy. 500k, I don't remember though -- what exactly were you looking to do? (And 864wood, how has the S300 been working out for you? Any maintenance issues? How is power on it compared to the 864 when you're not spinning tires?)

 

[500K_773]

I dunno -- if he does a good deal of plowing, the S300 would definitely be a better deal. Given most of his working conditions, though, I would think that the S300 is still the better buy. 500k, I don't remember though -- what exactly were you looking to do? (And 864wood, how has the S300 been working out for you? Any maintenance issues? How is power on it compared to the 864 when you're not spinning tires?)

We only have one dealer in the whole state of Alaska. It would be about 2,000 miles to Washington to get prices from other dealers. That's why I wanted to see if I was getting a fair price.
864wood, do you have high flow? How about SJC?

 

[StuZ]

We only have one dealer in the whole state of Alaska. It would be about 2,000 miles to Washington to get prices from other dealers. That's why I wanted to see if I was getting a fair price.
864wood, do you have high flow? How about SJC?

The price you got was right out of the price book. NO extra markup or anything, at least on the S300 and Gold Pkg. Next, let me caution you about the S300 and the High Flow. There are several attachments that can NOT handle the 40.0 GPM pump !! I beleive your Brushcat is 1 of them. Bobcat is coming out with newer versions able to handle the flow, but I would hate to see anyone tear up their equiptment.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

We only have one dealer in the whole state of Alaska. It would be about 2,000 miles to Washington to get prices from other dealers. That's why I wanted to see if I was getting a fair price.
864wood, do you have high flow? How about SJC?

A word to note about SJC: it is similar to anti-stall found on other models. That means you won't be able to kill the engine quite as easily. You may want to test it out before going for it entirely.

 

[500K_773]

A word to note about SJC: it is similar to anti-stall found on other models. That means you won't be able to kill the engine quite as easily. You may want to test it out before going for it entirely.

I am thinking of purchasing the high flow machine for attachments I want to purchase. The S250/S300 flows 20.7 GPM with standard flow and 30.7 GPM with high flow. I believe the high flow machines flow at the standard flow UNTIL you push the high flow button. This allows you to safely operate standard flow attachments.
My 60" Brushcat requires 13-28 GPM, so it will work with standard flow, but shouldn't be run with high flow. A 90" Brushcat requires 20-32 GPM, so pretty much needs high flow to run effectively.

 

[500K_773]

I am thinking of purchasing the high flow machine for attachments I want to purchase. The S250/S300 flows 20.7 GPM with standard flow and 30.7 GPM with high flow. I believe the high flow machines flow at the standard flow UNTIL you push the high flow button. This allows you to safely operate standard flow attachments.
My 60" Brushcat requires 13-28 GPM, so it will work with standard flow, but shouldn't be run with high flow. A 90" Brushcat requires 20-32 GPM, so pretty much needs high flow to run effectively.

I was looking at SJC to get rid of the long throw control arms. I like my hand contols, but my arms get tires after a 10 hour day on the machine.

 

[500K_773]

I was looking at SJC to get rid of the long throw control arms. I like my hand contols, but my arms get tires after a 10 hour day on the machine.

BTW, my dealer doesn't have any SJC machines for me to try. They really haven't ordered many in. I think my salesman said they only sold 1 or 2 with SJC in the whole state. I wonder if I special ordered a machine in and didn't like the controls, they wouldn't hold me to the machine. I'll have to talk this over with my salesman.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

I am thinking of purchasing the high flow machine for attachments I want to purchase. The S250/S300 flows 20.7 GPM with standard flow and 30.7 GPM with high flow. I believe the high flow machines flow at the standard flow UNTIL you push the high flow button. This allows you to safely operate standard flow attachments.
My 60" Brushcat requires 13-28 GPM, so it will work with standard flow, but shouldn't be run with high flow. A 90" Brushcat requires 20-32 GPM, so pretty much needs high flow to run effectively.

You may want to double check this before throwing the Brushcat on a HF model... just to be on the safe side, as Stuz mentioned. Only precautionary.

 

[wingspar]

I am thinking of purchasing the high flow machine for attachments I want to purchase. The S250/S300 flows 20.7 GPM with standard flow and 30.7 GPM with high flow. I believe the high flow machines flow at the standard flow UNTIL you push the high flow button. This allows you to safely operate standard flow attachments.
My 60" Brushcat requires 13-28 GPM, so it will work with standard flow, but shouldn't be run with high flow. A 90" Brushcat requires 20-32 GPM, so pretty much needs high flow to run effectively.

I think your 60" brush cat can be safely run with 30.7 GPM. In fact you might find that it works even better. Brush mowers can require quite a bit of HP. That is one reason they rated the 90" for that flow range. That, and the thing is so heavy it takes a larger loader just to handle it.

 

[Tigerotor77W]

I think your 60" brush cat can be safely run with 30.7 GPM. In fact you might find that it works even better. Brush mowers can require quite a bit of HP. That is one reason they rated the 90" for that flow range. That, and the thing is so heavy it takes a larger loader just to handle it.

The 30.7 GPM machines are fine, as wingspar mentioned, but wingspar, the new large-frame loaders (eg every SSL Bobcat makes that has a 3L engine... too many models! S220, S250, T250, S300, T300, A300) have now 40 GPM, which is *unsuitable* for the current-run Brushcats.