Combination Bucket

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Will be purchasing a compact track loader in a month or so. I will be using it to move dirt around, move and level stone, and do rough and finish grade. In addition to the standard bucket that comes with the loader, I was going to purchase a dozer blade. The dozer blade runs anwhere from $4100 up to $5000. I cant remember which brochure I saw it in, but they showed a combination bucket and it looked like they were using it like a dozer blade. Has anyone ever used a combination bucket? If so what do you think? The combination bucket runs around $2500, so I would like to hear from someone who has actually used one. Thanks!!!!
 

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If your speaking of what I call a 4in1 bucket, that is what I would rather purchase any day, than a dozer blade. The 4n1 when opened up is a dozer blade, you can't tilt it like the dozer blade, but with the 4n1 you have a reg. bucket, dozer blade & grapple like feature. that's just what would wrk for me. You may get more use out of the blade. have a good one!! dennis
 

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If your speaking of what I call a 4in1 bucket, that is what I would rather purchase any day, than a dozer blade. The 4n1 when opened up is a dozer blade, you can't tilt it like the dozer blade, but with the 4n1 you have a reg. bucket, dozer blade & grapple like feature. that's just what would wrk for me. You may get more use out of the blade. have a good one!! dennis
If you just want a straight blade once in a while then a 4 in 1 or combination bucket is a good choice for less money.
Most dozer blades power angle in 4 dirrections, have bolt on cutting edges and I can think of one that even has a optional wheel kit that pins on the front to convert it into a grader attachment. But the price gets up into the 6k range.
visit www.erskineattachments.com
They also manufacture combo buckets
Ken
 

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If you just want a straight blade once in a while then a 4 in 1 or combination bucket is a good choice for less money.
Most dozer blades power angle in 4 dirrections, have bolt on cutting edges and I can think of one that even has a optional wheel kit that pins on the front to convert it into a grader attachment. But the price gets up into the 6k range.
visit www.erskineattachments.com
They also manufacture combo buckets
Ken
Here you go, took me a minute to figure out how to convert the pdf
15_blade_grader_leveler_01.jpg

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15_blade_grader_leveler_03.jpg

15_blade_grader_leveler_04.jpg

and here is a combo bucket
14_6in1_combo_bucket_01.jpg

Ken
 

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Here you go, took me a minute to figure out how to convert the pdf




and here is a combo bucket

Ken
What makes the 6 in 1 bucket a 6 in 1? it looks the same as my 4 in 1, granted its a little straighter and painted.... But essentially they are the same looking.
I can't live without my trusty 4 in 1, i feel that i can pick up more with it than i could with a smooth lip bucket could. I just don't have the power or traction to push into a pile of dirt and fill my bucket rite to the top. But the 4 in 1 i just open, lift over the pile and push down while pulling back, it gets a full load every time (some times too full).
 

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What makes the 6 in 1 bucket a 6 in 1? it looks the same as my 4 in 1, granted its a little straighter and painted.... But essentially they are the same looking.
I can't live without my trusty 4 in 1, i feel that i can pick up more with it than i could with a smooth lip bucket could. I just don't have the power or traction to push into a pile of dirt and fill my bucket rite to the top. But the 4 in 1 i just open, lift over the pile and push down while pulling back, it gets a full load every time (some times too full).
Its just a marketing thing, call it 6 so it sounds better then 4...
Ken
 

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What makes the 6 in 1 bucket a 6 in 1? it looks the same as my 4 in 1, granted its a little straighter and painted.... But essentially they are the same looking.
I can't live without my trusty 4 in 1, i feel that i can pick up more with it than i could with a smooth lip bucket could. I just don't have the power or traction to push into a pile of dirt and fill my bucket rite to the top. But the 4 in 1 i just open, lift over the pile and push down while pulling back, it gets a full load every time (some times too full).
Forget the dozer blade, unless you do swales in very tight space, then consider 'tilt-tach' I have a 6way, but the skid (CTL in my case) is too short to do a good (fast) job grading with a blade, ez to get whoop-dee-doos, even with metering 'feet' on back of blade. elect controls are much too slow for quick grading, a real Dozer is much better, and cheap to rent if you don't have one. A friend bought a 9000# rubber tracked mitsu, and it is really productive (and quiet) exhaust comes out under seat, to the rear!!*** The '4:1' combo is king !!!, They really excel when used as a 'metered scraper' (slightly open while grading forward) you can skim a perfect depth of cut (or sod) using it like the 'bigboy' scaper', rolling material into bucket from bottom.** My favorite is 'back-blading' with it wide open, and rear (dozer) edge slightly deeper than front (inside of bucket), which smooths and sorts clods! *** of course you can't beat them for pulling fence posts and moving rocks and trees. but get a tough one, and don't bend (skew) it!*** I use a 'Rezloh' cutting edge on the front, they're awesome too! (~$850), I still can 'smooth' with my 'open bucket' straight edges
 

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Forget the dozer blade, unless you do swales in very tight space, then consider 'tilt-tach' I have a 6way, but the skid (CTL in my case) is too short to do a good (fast) job grading with a blade, ez to get whoop-dee-doos, even with metering 'feet' on back of blade. elect controls are much too slow for quick grading, a real Dozer is much better, and cheap to rent if you don't have one. A friend bought a 9000# rubber tracked mitsu, and it is really productive (and quiet) exhaust comes out under seat, to the rear!!*** The '4:1' combo is king !!!, They really excel when used as a 'metered scraper' (slightly open while grading forward) you can skim a perfect depth of cut (or sod) using it like the 'bigboy' scaper', rolling material into bucket from bottom.** My favorite is 'back-blading' with it wide open, and rear (dozer) edge slightly deeper than front (inside of bucket), which smooths and sorts clods! *** of course you can't beat them for pulling fence posts and moving rocks and trees. but get a tough one, and don't bend (skew) it!*** I use a 'Rezloh' cutting edge on the front, they're awesome too! (~$850), I still can 'smooth' with my 'open bucket' straight edges
janb - Jump into your profile and click the box down the bottom where it says "use HTML editor (freetext box)” then you can have paragraphs instead of using ***'s
I need to learn how to level with my 4 in 1 bucket, i find if i use the rear edge as a grader blade i just dig holes, it cuts great till it grabs. I have a bit of success with using the front edge of the bucket but that too can bite in and remove too much dirt. I think i just need more practice.
 

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janb - Jump into your profile and click the box down the bottom where it says "use HTML editor (freetext box)” then you can have paragraphs instead of using ***'s
I need to learn how to level with my 4 in 1 bucket, i find if i use the rear edge as a grader blade i just dig holes, it cuts great till it grabs. I have a bit of success with using the front edge of the bucket but that too can bite in and remove too much dirt. I think i just need more practice.
"Jump into your profile ..." Thx, I been wondering, but... when I did that it would not offer a cursor in the 'mesage reply' box (so, no typing allowed) ;o( (I'm using current firefox, don't tell me I HAVE to use MS explorer !!!) *** regarding leveling w/4:1, my owners manual for my Case Trackloader had great hints, and I wouldn't have known, but I lent the machine to a friend (who read the book...) He showed me how to do a 'metered' scrape - bucket slightly open (2-4") - cut with blade portion, and clam as 'depth' limiter. (i.e., it rides on ground to avoid gouging) You need to roll bucket to get it working correct, but it is really slick (my Case actually has a visible pointer and gage mark at hinge to help you meter 'open' position) I do most my final grading by 'back blading' or... with clam open, forward, using clam edge as a 'back blade' (opposite of gouging) I've also seen some great innovative grading instruction in old library books (pre-6way dozers...)
 

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"Jump into your profile ..." Thx, I been wondering, but... when I did that it would not offer a cursor in the 'mesage reply' box (so, no typing allowed) ;o( (I'm using current firefox, don't tell me I HAVE to use MS explorer !!!) *** regarding leveling w/4:1, my owners manual for my Case Trackloader had great hints, and I wouldn't have known, but I lent the machine to a friend (who read the book...) He showed me how to do a 'metered' scrape - bucket slightly open (2-4") - cut with blade portion, and clam as 'depth' limiter. (i.e., it rides on ground to avoid gouging) You need to roll bucket to get it working correct, but it is really slick (my Case actually has a visible pointer and gage mark at hinge to help you meter 'open' position) I do most my final grading by 'back blading' or... with clam open, forward, using clam edge as a 'back blade' (opposite of gouging) I've also seen some great innovative grading instruction in old library books (pre-6way dozers...)
To make this happen in Firefox, you need to click on the "PREVIEW" button at the bottom and then click the "BACK TO EDIT MODE" button.

This will make the area editable (I'm replying to you in Firefox).

I've been meaning to fix this issue with Firefox, but was going to wait till I put out a new version of the site. Hope you can bear with me until then :)

UPDATE: Forget what I said, it's still not working as it should. You can edit and add stuff, but it's not formatting correctly. Until I take a look at this, you can insert line breaks with some HTML tags "<BR><BR>" (which means break two lines) .... Also don't put the quotes around the tags.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

Janb, would it be possible to put up some demonstration pics on the leveling ? I've been wanting to learn this as well..
 

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To make this happen in Firefox, you need to click on the "PREVIEW" button at the bottom and then click the "BACK TO EDIT MODE" button.

This will make the area editable (I'm replying to you in Firefox).

I've been meaning to fix this issue with Firefox, but was going to wait till I put out a new version of the site. Hope you can bear with me until then :)

UPDATE: Forget what I said, it's still not working as it should. You can edit and add stuff, but it's not formatting correctly. Until I take a look at this, you can insert line breaks with some HTML tags "<BR><BR>" (which means break two lines) .... Also don't put the quotes around the tags.

Sorry for the inconvenience...

Janb, would it be possible to put up some demonstration pics on the leveling ? I've been wanting to learn this as well..
That would be great to see some detailed pics.
 

skidsteer.ca

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That would be great to see some detailed pics.
We got our new updated pricing...
Combo Buckets
2400.00 66 inch
2485.00 72 inch
2570.00 80 inch
6 way blade
3510.00 78 inch
3610.00 90 inch
3660.00 96 inch
Grader kit (foam filled front wheels)
1770.00 US dollars
Wire harness run between 50.00 and 100.00 for various model machines.
Freight extra
 
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