Last time, I chained to my Gregory Grapple, pulled it with my F 250 in 4x4 and clawed my way out going forward. I could use the tool to keep lifting the front of the loader keeping my front end up, and inching forward, while the truck helped drag me along. Sometimes you have to recover in reverse, but the rear end is almost always lower because of the engine in the rear. At times pulling it out going foward is a better option. With our bottomless peat, pushing backwards can just shove you further down. I did not have my winch mounted on my new truck, and missed it that day. Narrow Mc Claren semi solid tires on a S185 doesn't help the floatation, but I never get flats! I did notice a difference between machines when I was driving different ones. It seemed my Father in law's Case 1040 would go anywhere even in sand, but a rented Cat would get stuck easier. I think it had to do with the total weight, and how the weight was distributed. Talking to another operator, he said a John Deere could run up hills that he couldn't going forwards. So there must be something to weight distribution, in the different designs. .02 A.G.