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<blockquote data-quote="phlegm" data-source="post: 86273" data-attributes="member: 12227"><p>I don't normally work on any project fast, I usually stare at them, pondering what I'm going to do with it, wondering how badly do I need to get it done. And most project don't need to get done, so they don't. But this one I've had a couple years to think about what I want and expect out of it, so I am fairly confident that I'm building what I want.</p><p></p><p>I'm hoping I don't need wheel weights, between the assumed added 125-150lbs for a proper quick attach plate between the lift arms, and my 240lb frame.. the weight of the i6 may not be a problem at all.</p><p></p><p>I know it is not the same model, but this Case 1945B is for sale locally.</p><p>I hope I have less into mine by the time I'm done rebuilding it.</p><p><a href="http://fargo.craigslist.org/grd/4997854795.html" target="_blank">Case Loader - $6500 (Jamestown, ND)</a></p><p></p><p>I am under no grand illusion that this creation is going to be the most awesomest loader ever, two years ago we built a new barn and I borrowed this one from my wife's cousin.</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_1667_zps23ef5e8c.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2143_zps7bc5d444.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>and it was a dirt moving machine.</p><p>All told, I moved about 550 yards of dirt with it. The trucks would bring it in, 96 yards per day and I built up this location. So that the dirt barn floor is roughly 8" higher than record flood level in my area.</p><p>From This</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2144_zpse0939e18.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>To This</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2162_zpsc807b95a.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>over the 6 days, dirt was brought in and I leveled it out.</p><p></p><p>Eventually ending up with a 55ft x 70 ft spot that was "mostly" level.</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2338_zps9abc5867.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>It took Morton (the building company) 5 days to construct this entire barn, it was amazing to come home each day and see how much more had been done. You can see the evelation change , there is roughly a 3ft drop on the South side of the barn, I eventually backfilled around the barn, and filled the inside of the barn with washed sand. And even much later, I filled in the area to the South with another 100 yards or dirt to make the grade a little less dramatic.</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2546_zps355d5bc7.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>But in all honesty, I don't need a machine like that for most of what I do.</p><p></p><p>My main purposes are going to be pulling out fence posts, hopefully moving round bales (15 per year), scooping horse poop out of the barn stalls, back scraping or box blading the driveway, moving dirt as needed, normal boring stuff that is too much for a lawnmower, probably perfect tasks for a tractor, but easier to manuever. I kind of like it without the ROPs on it, seems like there would be better visibility and less worry about clearance when driving into buildings. I WILL be building a ROPs though.</p><p></p><p>So back to the project.</p><p></p><p>Yesterday I measured the 170 crankshaft snout so I can extend the drive adapter into the crank, it is 1.375" diameter. I needed a crank spacer to get the flexplate farther away from my crankshaft due to the i6 to SBF adapter plate, there are 6 bolt holes in it, they are on a 2.75" diameter, the bolt holes are .450 diameter, and the bolt holes are all 60degrees apart.. except 2 of them. One is 64 degrees and the one next to it is 54 degrees, this is how Ford makes certain that the flywheels and flexplates only go on in one specific direction.</p><p></p><p>I also measured the flexplate to find out where the stock torque converter bolts were originally. Again, they were .450 diameter holes, on the circumference of a 10.5" circle. I also determined that I wanted the center hole to be 1.40", so that when I get the shaft lathed for the drive (between crank and sprocket) it will be 1.375 going through the 1.4" hole, which will give me a little bit of a gap, but when MIG welded, won't be an issue at all.</p><p></p><p>I hand drew what I wanted and then asked my coworker to convert it into CNC/DXF drawings.</p><p></p><p>My Scribbles</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3316_zpsw5wsatvj.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>His computerized versions.</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3342_zpstf6bput2.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3343_zpswwe4toau.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>For grins, I dug out the 170 from the corner of my shop, I need to degrease it and get it painted. But I also wanted to see how well it will or will not fit, just sort of eyeballing it.</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3332_zps31jtsjic.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>Sorry this one is blurry</p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3333_zpsuswse5dp.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p><img src="http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3335_zpsojuyvnna.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>FWIW, I made both engine lift brackets, and the bellhousing adapter shown in those pictures.</p><p>Time to go see if they have time to cut me some 1/4" flat plate..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phlegm, post: 86273, member: 12227"] I don't normally work on any project fast, I usually stare at them, pondering what I'm going to do with it, wondering how badly do I need to get it done. And most project don't need to get done, so they don't. But this one I've had a couple years to think about what I want and expect out of it, so I am fairly confident that I'm building what I want. I'm hoping I don't need wheel weights, between the assumed added 125-150lbs for a proper quick attach plate between the lift arms, and my 240lb frame.. the weight of the i6 may not be a problem at all. I know it is not the same model, but this Case 1945B is for sale locally. I hope I have less into mine by the time I'm done rebuilding it. [URL='http://fargo.craigslist.org/grd/4997854795.html']Case Loader - $6500 (Jamestown, ND)[/URL] I am under no grand illusion that this creation is going to be the most awesomest loader ever, two years ago we built a new barn and I borrowed this one from my wife's cousin. [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_1667_zps23ef5e8c.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2143_zps7bc5d444.jpg[/IMG] and it was a dirt moving machine. All told, I moved about 550 yards of dirt with it. The trucks would bring it in, 96 yards per day and I built up this location. So that the dirt barn floor is roughly 8" higher than record flood level in my area. From This [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2144_zpse0939e18.jpg[/IMG] To This [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2162_zpsc807b95a.jpg[/IMG] over the 6 days, dirt was brought in and I leveled it out. Eventually ending up with a 55ft x 70 ft spot that was "mostly" level. [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2338_zps9abc5867.jpg[/IMG] It took Morton (the building company) 5 days to construct this entire barn, it was amazing to come home each day and see how much more had been done. You can see the evelation change , there is roughly a 3ft drop on the South side of the barn, I eventually backfilled around the barn, and filled the inside of the barn with washed sand. And even much later, I filled in the area to the South with another 100 yards or dirt to make the grade a little less dramatic. [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/House/Morton%20Barn/IMG_2546_zps355d5bc7.jpg[/IMG] But in all honesty, I don't need a machine like that for most of what I do. My main purposes are going to be pulling out fence posts, hopefully moving round bales (15 per year), scooping horse poop out of the barn stalls, back scraping or box blading the driveway, moving dirt as needed, normal boring stuff that is too much for a lawnmower, probably perfect tasks for a tractor, but easier to manuever. I kind of like it without the ROPs on it, seems like there would be better visibility and less worry about clearance when driving into buildings. I WILL be building a ROPs though. So back to the project. Yesterday I measured the 170 crankshaft snout so I can extend the drive adapter into the crank, it is 1.375" diameter. I needed a crank spacer to get the flexplate farther away from my crankshaft due to the i6 to SBF adapter plate, there are 6 bolt holes in it, they are on a 2.75" diameter, the bolt holes are .450 diameter, and the bolt holes are all 60degrees apart.. except 2 of them. One is 64 degrees and the one next to it is 54 degrees, this is how Ford makes certain that the flywheels and flexplates only go on in one specific direction. I also measured the flexplate to find out where the stock torque converter bolts were originally. Again, they were .450 diameter holes, on the circumference of a 10.5" circle. I also determined that I wanted the center hole to be 1.40", so that when I get the shaft lathed for the drive (between crank and sprocket) it will be 1.375 going through the 1.4" hole, which will give me a little bit of a gap, but when MIG welded, won't be an issue at all. I hand drew what I wanted and then asked my coworker to convert it into CNC/DXF drawings. My Scribbles [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3316_zpsw5wsatvj.jpg[/IMG] His computerized versions. [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3342_zpstf6bput2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3343_zpswwe4toau.jpg[/IMG] For grins, I dug out the 170 from the corner of my shop, I need to degrease it and get it painted. But I also wanted to see how well it will or will not fit, just sort of eyeballing it. [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3332_zps31jtsjic.jpg[/IMG] Sorry this one is blurry [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3333_zpsuswse5dp.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/vv256/phl3gm/automotive/Case%201830/InTheShop/IMG_3335_zpsojuyvnna.jpg[/IMG] FWIW, I made both engine lift brackets, and the bellhousing adapter shown in those pictures. Time to go see if they have time to cut me some 1/4" flat plate.. [/QUOTE]
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