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<blockquote data-quote="thetool" data-source="post: 25340" data-attributes="member: 1534"><p>Thanks for the replies, fellas.....=).</p><p>Corey-when you look at your manual, it's quite simple, but if you have an old school in-line machine (743, 843) the pictures I took can throw a guy off, because the setup is so different on the newer machines.</p><p>SP-yeah-you were the guy who originally prompted me to look into doing this.....=). This procedure I just did was for a large-frame loader, your S185 will be somewhat different. I look forward to a trip to Montana at your earliest convenience.....=). I can cut you a little slack even, using your machine to develop the procedure for medium frames......=). </p><p>Someone like TriHonu could probably figure out a totally aftermarket set-up, but I cannot see any room inside the newer machines to hang stuff that is not OEM, for example, building a bracket and mounting an additional pump to the front.</p><p>We have always been told the cost is prohibitive to convert to hi-flow, that it is "cheaper" to buy a factory hi-flow machine. If you don't already have one, then it certainly is cheaper to simply order with that option.</p><p>I think there are a lot of guys out there that bought a "Gold Package" machine and think they have a fully-loaded Bobcat, and when they start thinking about buying a snow-blower or some other hi-flow attachment, are disappointed to find out that they don't have the machine to run it.</p><p>Depending on the age and condition of their machine, the dealer's attitude and current inventory, margins and other hi-brow bean-counting marketing terms and formulae (BS, in other words), it may cost 10-15K to upgrade to a hi-flow machine. Or more? Of course the dealer is going to tell you it's in your best interest to buy a new machine with factory hi-flow.....=). But is it really "cheaper?" It depends on the individual situation, I guess.</p><p>After this job, I can state that it seems to me that I can get a guy into hi-flow for about 5K total, or less, the newer the machine. Probably about the same for medium frames, they need and extra diverter, but there are other things that don't need to be done as with the large-frames.</p><p>If you take it to the dealer and tell him to do it, he's probably going to fight you and go at it with the wrong attitude, you want that result? Add his labor rate, and it's not a good deal.</p><p>A guy can do it himself with my procedure, and save even more. This is my thinking. What do you guys think about that?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="thetool, post: 25340, member: 1534"] Thanks for the replies, fellas.....=). Corey-when you look at your manual, it's quite simple, but if you have an old school in-line machine (743, 843) the pictures I took can throw a guy off, because the setup is so different on the newer machines. SP-yeah-you were the guy who originally prompted me to look into doing this.....=). This procedure I just did was for a large-frame loader, your S185 will be somewhat different. I look forward to a trip to Montana at your earliest convenience.....=). I can cut you a little slack even, using your machine to develop the procedure for medium frames......=). Someone like TriHonu could probably figure out a totally aftermarket set-up, but I cannot see any room inside the newer machines to hang stuff that is not OEM, for example, building a bracket and mounting an additional pump to the front. We have always been told the cost is prohibitive to convert to hi-flow, that it is “cheaper” to buy a factory hi-flow machine. If you don't already have one, then it certainly is cheaper to simply order with that option. I think there are a lot of guys out there that bought a “Gold Package” machine and think they have a fully-loaded Bobcat, and when they start thinking about buying a snow-blower or some other hi-flow attachment, are disappointed to find out that they don't have the machine to run it. Depending on the age and condition of their machine, the dealer's attitude and current inventory, margins and other hi-brow bean-counting marketing terms and formulae (BS, in other words), it may cost 10-15K to upgrade to a hi-flow machine. Or more? Of course the dealer is going to tell you it's in your best interest to buy a new machine with factory hi-flow.....=). But is it really “cheaper?” It depends on the individual situation, I guess. After this job, I can state that it seems to me that I can get a guy into hi-flow for about 5K total, or less, the newer the machine. Probably about the same for medium frames, they need and extra diverter, but there are other things that don't need to be done as with the large-frames. If you take it to the dealer and tell him to do it, he's probably going to fight you and go at it with the wrong attitude, you want that result? Add his labor rate, and it's not a good deal. A guy can do it himself with my procedure, and save even more. This is my thinking. What do you guys think about that? [/QUOTE]
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