I have a 1995 751-C with a blown peugeot motor. I did not do my research before buying, ha ha. I have installation instructions for this conversion. I'm pretty confused on the hydrostatic pump procedure. since the peugeot powered loader is driven from the opposite side it says to take two pumps apart, then take out the four bolts out of the pump housing end cap on both pumps. then, rotate pump housing endcaps 180 degrees from there present location. then, reassemble the endcaps on pump halves. Any other info on the whole conversion procedure would be appreciated. I also have a parts list but i've read on this forum I believe, that parts from a 753 would work to do this conversion.
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You will also need a new bell housing i believe, the pug one is on the wrong side, and i don't believe it is as simple as flipping it over as the belt tensioner runs on this housing too.BTW, the v2203 is out of a Carrier Transicold reefer truck. Any info on removing or disabling the governer would help too. thank you
I'm a little concerned about the engine rotation, check that it will still rotate the same direction if the pump was around the other way.
The pump changes are confussing me a little too. I'm looking at a picture of a pump and you will need to change more than just the centre piece that the drive motors join to.
The main part that that needs to move is the valve section, the middle bit. The issue is, there are wear plates on here that the rotating groups run on. The wear plates are specific for the direction of rotation, so you must be careful to get the right one on the right side. To be even more complicated, the wear plates can't just be moved, as they wear with the rotating groups.
Hopefully BobcatDan has done one of these can can tell you exactly what to do.
Thanks for the reply, I do need flywheel housing, flywheel, cooling fan parts, etc... those are pretty easy I would think. I actually found out about the governor too. I just need parts off 753 kubota governor. I also need oilpan. dipstick with hole drilled. can't seem to find motor mount part number. The parts list I have from bobcat for this kit only has fuel tank, cooling fan kit, lots of hoses and clamps. everything seems pretty self explanatory except the hydrostatic pump procedure. As far as I can see in directions, no new parts are needed for pump. Mainly just need flywheel housing, flywheel, and motor/pump mounts to get started. I live in western wisconsin and I can't seem to find a bobcat junkyard, used parts. I'll check rotation of both engines so I know more about what I'm trying to accomplish with the pump.You will also need a new bell housing i believe, the pug one is on the wrong side, and i don't believe it is as simple as flipping it over as the belt tensioner runs on this housing too.
I'm a little concerned about the engine rotation, check that it will still rotate the same direction if the pump was around the other way.
The pump changes are confussing me a little too. I'm looking at a picture of a pump and you will need to change more than just the centre piece that the drive motors join to.
The main part that that needs to move is the valve section, the middle bit. The issue is, there are wear plates on here that the rotating groups run on. The wear plates are specific for the direction of rotation, so you must be careful to get the right one on the right side. To be even more complicated, the wear plates can't just be moved, as they wear with the rotating groups.
Hopefully BobcatDan has done one of these can can tell you exactly what to do.
I checked hydrostatic pump part numbers they are different between 751 and 753. although the actual hydro motor part numbers are the same. since the peugeot motor doesn't run or turn over, I checked the rotation of the starter. The peugeot runs same direction as kubota if I were to turn the engine around. That's good news! Thanks for thinking of that. I would think the center of the two halves, where the drive hoses connect, would stay in the same position. I would just take the ends off and switch sides, not actually rotate 180 degrees. That would make more sense to me. Maybe that's right?Thanks for the reply, I do need flywheel housing, flywheel, cooling fan parts, etc... those are pretty easy I would think. I actually found out about the governor too. I just need parts off 753 kubota governor. I also need oilpan. dipstick with hole drilled. can't seem to find motor mount part number. The parts list I have from bobcat for this kit only has fuel tank, cooling fan kit, lots of hoses and clamps. everything seems pretty self explanatory except the hydrostatic pump procedure. As far as I can see in directions, no new parts are needed for pump. Mainly just need flywheel housing, flywheel, and motor/pump mounts to get started. I live in western wisconsin and I can't seem to find a bobcat junkyard, used parts. I'll check rotation of both engines so I know more about what I'm trying to accomplish with the pump.
Personally i'd remove the end pumps and wear plates, rotate the middle section and replace the wear plates and pumps.I checked hydrostatic pump part numbers they are different between 751 and 753. although the actual hydro motor part numbers are the same. since the peugeot motor doesn't run or turn over, I checked the rotation of the starter. The peugeot runs same direction as kubota if I were to turn the engine around. That's good news! Thanks for thinking of that. I would think the center of the two halves, where the drive hoses connect, would stay in the same position. I would just take the ends off and switch sides, not actually rotate 180 degrees. That would make more sense to me. Maybe that's right?
While you are in there, check the plates for wear, if you can feel marks with your finger nail, replace them or get a sheet of glass and wet and dry and sand them out. Any little marks here reduce your drive power.
That sounds about right to me too, fly wheel, bell housing, air filter may be needed and a wiring harness if you decide to go all out.
I got parts off a mate down south with a dealership that did a conversion. I got air box, air hoses, engine harness. They just replaced these things as dealers don't take time to re-wire stuff like that but i'm sure you can.
You will need to do other little things like fuel shut off solenoids. It has a glow timer though, that is a plus. The fuel shut off solenoid you can wire up to your starter so when you are cranking the pull solenoid is engaged, when you are not cranking it is disengaged and the hold wire holds it in place.
I can possibly mash out more details and pictures if you look up my email address in my profile. Gives you an idea of what to expect inside the pump.
Just to update, I got some part numbers for the v2203 conversion. Flywheel #7155781 Hydrostatic pulley #6704424 . I am waiting on part numbers for motor mounts, and i'm not sure if flywheel housing is one piece so it is motor mounts like the peugeot setup. I'll be updatingPersonally i'd remove the end pumps and wear plates, rotate the middle section and replace the wear plates and pumps.
While you are in there, check the plates for wear, if you can feel marks with your finger nail, replace them or get a sheet of glass and wet and dry and sand them out. Any little marks here reduce your drive power.
That sounds about right to me too, fly wheel, bell housing, air filter may be needed and a wiring harness if you decide to go all out.
I got parts off a mate down south with a dealership that did a conversion. I got air box, air hoses, engine harness. They just replaced these things as dealers don't take time to re-wire stuff like that but i'm sure you can.
You will need to do other little things like fuel shut off solenoids. It has a glow timer though, that is a plus. The fuel shut off solenoid you can wire up to your starter so when you are cranking the pull solenoid is engaged, when you are not cranking it is disengaged and the hold wire holds it in place.
I can possibly mash out more details and pictures if you look up my email address in my profile. Gives you an idea of what to expect inside the pump.
The motor housing has one spot for an engine mount, i think there was a bracket that mounted to the front of the engine to mount to the other side, don't quote me on that though....Just to update, I got some part numbers for the v2203 conversion. Flywheel #7155781 Hydrostatic pulley #6704424 . I am waiting on part numbers for motor mounts, and i'm not sure if flywheel housing is one piece so it is motor mounts like the peugeot setup. I'll be updating
found all the used parts i need, pretty cheap too. one thing is the cooling fan assembly #6734104 is suppose to be switched out with the one in the 751. the fan will spin backward with my new setup. that part is expensive, even used.The motor housing has one spot for an engine mount, i think there was a bracket that mounted to the front of the engine to mount to the other side, don't quote me on that though....
all parts needed came to about $1300 motor was found for $1100. mostly used. most parts are from bobcat 763 512250001 and above. That helps a lot to find what parts are needed. Since I couldn't find much on this conversion I will give main part numbers needed.found all the used parts i need, pretty cheap too. one thing is the cooling fan assembly #6734104 is suppose to be switched out with the one in the 751. the fan will spin backward with my new setup. that part is expensive, even used.
7155781 Flywheel
6726613 Flywheel housing
7104568,6703981 motor mounts
6705711, 6725427 alternator mounts 55amp
6704424 Hydrostatic pulley
6734104 cooling fan assembly(751 spins opposite)
6730999 radiator tube
6578279,6578280,6576028 radiator hoses
6717572 fuel tank.
I used tractorhouse.com to find most of the parts. also conroetractor.com , shipping was very reasonable from everyone I used. I think the biggest pain so far is getting the cooling fan assembly out, putting it back in will be even more of a pain. Also, going to have to do something about the governor but can deal with that once it's all in. Two weeks of searching for part numbers needed, trying to find used parts, etc.. This should help anyone else doing this conversion. Just waiting for parts now, I'll update on problems I find along the way.
You have done well.all parts needed came to about $1300 motor was found for $1100. mostly used. most parts are from bobcat 763 512250001 and above. That helps a lot to find what parts are needed. Since I couldn't find much on this conversion I will give main part numbers needed.
7155781 Flywheel
6726613 Flywheel housing
7104568,6703981 motor mounts
6705711, 6725427 alternator mounts 55amp
6704424 Hydrostatic pulley
6734104 cooling fan assembly(751 spins opposite)
6730999 radiator tube
6578279,6578280,6576028 radiator hoses
6717572 fuel tank.
I used tractorhouse.com to find most of the parts. also conroetractor.com , shipping was very reasonable from everyone I used. I think the biggest pain so far is getting the cooling fan assembly out, putting it back in will be even more of a pain. Also, going to have to do something about the governor but can deal with that once it's all in. Two weeks of searching for part numbers needed, trying to find used parts, etc.. This should help anyone else doing this conversion. Just waiting for parts now, I'll update on problems I find along the way.
As for the cooling fan, i thought the pulley was on the same side as all the rest.....
Looking forward to hearing how you went with the conversion.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Just to update I received a few parts already. flywheel doesn't have part number on it but fits, flywheel housing has part number 6700540 instead of what i ordered but does fit. I have to use the starter from the puegeot though.I was told by a friend who had one converted that the Kubota engine was heavier and he had to add counterweight to the front. I can't help much on the mechanical end but thought you might want to be aware of a potential slight issue.
the cooling fan is on the side of the hydrostatic pump now. but since it ran off alternator side of peugeot before, it would now spin backwards. if that makes sense.Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Just to update I received a few parts already. flywheel doesn't have part number on it but fits, flywheel housing has part number 6700540 instead of what i ordered but does fit. I have to use the starter from the puegeot though.
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Can you flip the fan blades over?the cooling fan is on the side of the hydrostatic pump now. but since it ran off alternator side of peugeot before, it would now spin backwards. if that makes sense.
no, can't flip them over. The fan is the same part number and same rotation as most. just the gearing in the fan drive is opposite. found a used fan drive for $200 instead of the $600+ new from bobcat. waiting on the fan drive, oil pan, and bolts for oil pan before I can really do anything else.Can you flip the fan blades over?
So, I finally got the engine/pump assembly put in. I had to change the exhaust manifold for it to fit. I found out I need to change the right side 2 drive hoses. I took the plate off that's between the right wheels and I can see the two hose ends but getting a wrench of them looks difficult. Any tricks for this? Wrench size? Any help would be appreciated. Other than that, wiring is about all I have to do. Oh yeah, throttle too.no, can't flip them over. The fan is the same part number and same rotation as most. just the gearing in the fan drive is opposite. found a used fan drive for $200 instead of the $600+ new from bobcat. waiting on the fan drive, oil pan, and bolts for oil pan before I can really do anything else.
I generally get away with using shifting spanners, but access is not always great to allow you to swing it.So, I finally got the engine/pump assembly put in. I had to change the exhaust manifold for it to fit. I found out I need to change the right side 2 drive hoses. I took the plate off that's between the right wheels and I can see the two hose ends but getting a wrench of them looks difficult. Any tricks for this? Wrench size? Any help would be appreciated. Other than that, wiring is about all I have to do. Oh yeah, throttle too.
thanks for the fast reply. I've never heard them called shifting spanners, I had to look that up, ha. That is what i've been using just seems hard to get to the second hose. Maybe have to take elbow off first to get at the second I guess.I generally get away with using shifting spanners, but access is not always great to allow you to swing it.
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